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When Granada bought LWT

(November 2006)

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DB
dbl
I was browsing YouTube, and found this interesting documentary about how it would effect LWT when Granada bought it. (This video was from 1994)

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OSy2AtfCcE

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5vjf1iis4

Did this in a way predict the future? Confused
SA
salceyboy
The feature is very interesting. The irony is that it is available to watch on line not on tv. You can understand why ITV want to buy and run sites such as Friends Reunited.
MG
MikeGNE
I think Greg Dyke and Michael Grade speak a lot of sense in that programme.

Funny that Charles Allen appears around the time they are saying TV was starting to be run by businessmen, not creative programme makers.
LP
Localised Person
It was a big mistake Granada buying out LWT, and indeed, the rest of the ITV regions. LWT was brilliant in its day, then Granada buys it out, the output of London Weekend Television goes to ka-put.
IS
Inspector Sands
Localised Person posted:
It was a big mistake Granada buying out LWT, and indeed, the rest of the ITV regions. LWT was brilliant in its day, then Granada buys it out, the output of London Weekend Television goes to ka-put.


It doesn't matter who bought who, the end result of a single company would have ended up one way or another
LE
lewsnews
Do you think maybe if ITV was still split into different companies they'd be having the same problems as they are currently having. I always preferred each region having its own identity.... and then Carlton came. (I believe Greg Dyke isn't a big fan of Carlton).
:-(
A former member
Inspector Sands posted:
Localised Person posted:
It was a big mistake Granada buying out LWT, and indeed, the rest of the ITV regions. LWT was brilliant in its day, then Granada buys it out, the output of London Weekend Television goes to ka-put.


It doesn't matter who bought who, the end result of a single company would have ended up one way or another


YES IT DOES! if LWT brough up everyone eles ,ITV would proably be in a better state as it would of been run by Programme makers, and not a bunch of Old cash cow!
If only LWT brough Granda instead!
MG
MikeGNE
Thats right, as the documentary says, LWT was a programme makers company, on the second clip we see Greg Dyke say what has exactly happened under Granada.. its a business with television somewhere down on the list of priorities.

I think basically, ITV currently is very Granada, and looking back at Granada it wasn't really the entertainment factory, unlike ATV, LWT and Central.

Something Lee Bannister said on the ATV site which sums it up really:

Its major problem at the moment is that its sitting back on a brand that's become rather bland when it should be being shouted from the rooftops. He wants people to love it again, that's how he'll do it - make it exciting again.

We know that ITV can make themselves look really 'big' - look at everything to do with ITV50. ITV should be a family, we should know where they are... you know, make more of 'The ITV Tower' (LWT's Kent House)... make people think that ITV is special, glamourous, better than the rest. Under the most recent regime, no-one made any effort like this.

Glitz, glamour, even if you don't like this sort of thing - it's what ITV should be. Ironically, IMO although I can't quite put my finger on it exactly, it seems that ITV has quite a Granada attitude (unsurprisingly)... it needs an ATV attitude.... ....ATV = Showbiz... that's what ITV should be...
:-(
A former member
well at least an OLD Lwt dog is getting control of ITV now,
LWT was an icon what ITV shoudl be like now. great programmes at Peak time while airing Quiltay programming like South banks show, quiz, current affiars, arts, at off peak time, instead of pendaling CRAP!


ATV also made money! thanks to it showbis programmes!
MG
MikeGNE
Well ATV also put the viewers first, certainly under Lew Grade anyway, took risks - some worked, some failed - but it was about making television - good TV - and from good TV good profits.

It just seems in recent years its been how can we make as much money as possible without spending too much. And its failed on the whole. And it seems Greg Dyke and Michael Grade were well aware of how it could go back in 1994.
IS
Inspector Sands
lewsnews posted:
Do you think maybe if ITV was still split into different companies they'd be having the same problems as they are currently having.


No, they'd have bigger problems!
IS
Inspector Sands
MikeGNE posted:
Well ATV also put the viewers first, certainly under Lew Grade anyway, took risks - some worked, some failed - but it was about making television - good TV - and from good TV good profits.


Almost: good TV and a monopoly made good profits!

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