The alteration to your previous post is noted. I maintain that the pressure to perform in radio is just as great as TV. You changed from saying Adrian and Christine were given 13 months to saying 14 months. You agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months. I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in.
However bad things get, I hope that ITV don't start to tamper with it and turn it into GMTV, please no. GMB is great and it is a huge improvement on Daybreak but it just needs time and that is key here.
You agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months. I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in.
It doesn't matter how long it lasted, the decision to change/revamp it was taken last Autumn (after research launched last April). It wasn't given 18 months to bed in. If it was given 18 months to bed in then there would be no review of Daybreak 2 until now!
I maintain that the pressure to perform in radio is just as great as TV. in.
Only in the long term,Not in the short-medium term and nonsensical to claim otherwise. Advertising pressure is no where near as bad in the short/medium term as the data isn't available.
However bad things get, I hope that ITV don't start to tamper with it and turn it into GMTV, please no. GMB is great and it is a huge improvement on Daybreak but it just needs time and that is key here.
Did you miss the Paedophile specials last week then? It was the lead story. The next day it was a non story on the previously announced Child Maintenance changes followed by a follow up on the Paedophiles/Chatrooms story involving Ranvir scaring 11 year olds with all the information she gleaned about them from the internet.
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So you continue to agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months. You've attempted to change tack subtly on what you said initially about Adrian and Christine. The pressure to perform in radio is just as great as in TV, in all timeframes. I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in.
However bad things get, I hope that ITV don't start to tamper with it and turn it into GMTV, please no. GMB is great and it is a huge improvement on Daybreak but it just needs time and that is key here.
Did you miss the Paedophile specials last week then? It was the lead story. The next day it was a non story on the previously announced Child Maintenance changes followed by a follow up on the Paedophiles/Chatrooms story involving Ranvir scaring 11 year olds with all the information she gleaned about them from the internet.
Yes, i saw all of this but I mean like what ITV did with Daybreak2012, like the sun and music and all of that, but these stories were quite interesting.
So you continue to agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months. .
Of course it lasted on screen for 18 months. I'm starting to think you don't realise what 'bedding in' means. If Daybreak was given 18 months to 'bed in' then there would have been no review of the show until last month and it would be still on air today.
The pressure to perform in radio is just as great as in TV, in all timeframes.
How can you say that when tv channels regularly pull shows with poor ratings after a few episodes due to poor overnights????????
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So, once more for clarity, you continue to agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months. I would argue that you don't get it, as reflected by your attempting to characterise my understanding as such. I maintain that you've attempted to change tack subtly on the aforementioned earlier point. I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in. I don't think you're adding anything to this thread so let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.
So, once more for clarity, you continue to agree that Daybreak version 2 lasted 18 months.
I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in
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Really?? you haven't mentioned this before. I think 6 times is enough to repeat things.
Can you tell me what your definition of 'bedding in' is? There is difference between lasting on air and bedding in. Which you clearly don't get. How was Daybreak 2 given 18 months to bed in when it was replaced by GMB after 18 months. It didn't have 18 months to bed in, the decision to radically change it was taken last year!
Anyway as Phil says 'BORING'
I would guess that
initial focus groups
have suggested that their core viewers don't like the newsier format and with poor ratings, there has been a distinct change to a more showbiz agenda lately. Leading on what showbiz stories they've got ahead rather than advertising that there will be a full news service.
Well I imagine they were driven by a fall in the key housewives with kids demo. The main news agenda has also been altered. There was more time spent covering a debate on whether kids should be taken out of school during term time on Monday than the European Elections.
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You're continuing to agree with my point about Daybreak version 2. I dispute that I don't get "it" and I don't get subtlety, particularly as I very quickly spotted the subtle change of tack in your point regarding Adrian and Christine. Resorting to insults such as "boring" just underlies the weakness of your argument. I'd still say around 18 months for GMB to bed in. At the risk of repeating myself, your interjections are adding nothing to this thread, so let's just leave it there and agree to disagree.
The posts are as clear as day. You just don't get subtlety.