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Good Morning Britain - the launch

(April 2014)

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WH
Whataday Founding member
Also I find it insulting to say what 'people like us' think about a particular programme is less important than what anyone else thinks.

I didn't say that. I said we on TVForum think differently about presentation, etc. I said how we think about these changes is entirely different kettle of fish to they way the general public think about them.


You're saying that by being a TVForum member, I'm not part of the general viewing public, so to me that suggests my opinion is less important.

it is 'people like us' with attention to detail that make decisions in advertising and broadcasting in general.

Therein lies the problem. 'People like us... that make decisions in advertising and broadcasting in general'. Just because 'people like us... make decisions in advertising and broadcasting in general' doesn't make us right.


Nor does it make it right if Chantelle down the Co-op says it's pants because the graphics move too fast for her to find out what the weather's doing in Grimsby. (Gross stereotype - sorry)

Ultimately, everyone has their own individual opinion, and if enough people like it, it will be deemed a success. But like I said, doesn't mean anyone's opinion is less valid than anyone elses, as we are ALL part of the general public.

Having said all that, I still believe there are added benefits if creatives and executives within the industry like the programme. Something like GMB needs time to grow and I think (or hope) it will get that time.
RI
Richard
I've noticed that every day one of their "top stories" is "celebrity is single/not single". Monday we had George Clooney, Tuesday we had Zac Efron, Wednesday we had Prince Harry. Is this going to be a fixed feature? They could brand it "The Singles Report sponsored by Match.com".

I think, three days in, it's time to ditch Ben's awkward pre-recorded intros into the regional news. They're supposed to make it feel more personal, but the timing around them is so awkward it's defeating the purpose. It disjoints the flow of the programme and makes it feel less welcoming. I'd prefer the presenters just saying, live, off the back of whatever segment they've finished "now let's join our local news teams" followed by a sting.

Absolutely. If they can't be bothered to have a regional intro at 6pm (just an impersonal generic ident) they shouldn't bother with this nonsense in the morning.
FA
fanoftv
Susanna is really growing on me. I know strictly started it, but seeing her on GMB & tonight's Paul O'Grady has made her personality shine.

It is true that people don't like change, but I'm sure they will settle into the new format, but I also hope that this format and presenting team can stay together for a long time too rather than wanting to leave or wanting bigger things.
BR
Brekkie
Re. the clock being outside the safe area... they could swap the clock and the #GMB itv.com bug around so the clock moves into the safe screen, and the bug animates out towards the edge of the screen..?

They should also have all the graphics in black and white. Absolutely right now to ditch the 4:3 safe zones - it's been many years now since a 4:3 TV was on the market.
DO
dosxuk
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.
LL
London Lite Founding member
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.
DO
dosxuk
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.


I know several people who still use 4:3 sets, either in centre-cut-out or stretchy-vision, because they don't like to see the top and bottom of the screen "wasted".
HA
harshy Founding member
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.

I suspect those people will have it on their default channel bbc1 because they are too busy getting the kids ready etc by the time the kids are gone the mother would probably switch to 4:3 safe Lorraine.
BR
Brekkie
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.

Exactly - if people want to see everything that's on the screen set your TV up accordingly.
DO
dosxuk
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.

Exactly - if people want to see everything that's on the screen set your TV up accordingly.


But how do you know you're missing something that you can't see?

And how do you tell the audience that they've not set up their equipment properly without sounding condescending and making them switchover?
JO
Jon
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.

Exactly - if people want to see everything that's on the screen set your TV up accordingly.

But it's a commercial decision and ultimataly if the public haven't got the right set up it's the broadcasters who are going to lose out if they don't accept that or at least make the effort to educate people.


The fact is if too many have the wrong set up too many people will think the show doesn't have a clock and will simply tune into something else.
SR
SomeRandomStuff
Jon posted:
But there's still a good number of 4:3 TV's out there, particularly in bedrooms and kitchens - the kind of place you're likely to have a breakfast programme on.


I still use a 4:3 CRT set in the kitchen, but use the Freeview box in letterbox mode.

Exactly - if people want to see everything that's on the screen set your TV up accordingly.

But it's a commercial decision and ultimataly if the public haven't got the right set up it's the broadcasters who are going to lose out if they don't accept that or at least make the effort to educate people.


The fact is if too many have the wrong set up too many people will think the show doesn't have a clock and will simply tune into something else.

So millions of people are reliant on an OSG Clock which is definitely slow, and will change channel just for that purpose... okay then, how do they know what time it is the rest of the day?

I personally have a clock on the wall above my tv, a clock on my bedside table, a clock in the kitchen, a clock in the bathroom, a clock on my phone, and a watch on my wrist... who cares if the OSG clock is outside the 4:3 safe areas. My clocks are all more accurate than the one on the tv anyway.

Anyone reliant on an OSG to tell them the time is quite simply a moron.

...and as for the other side of the screen... i find Weather forecasts are far less accurate than looking out of the window and guessing.

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