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Good Morning Britain - the launch

(April 2014)

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CA
Cando
pad posted:
700k last night but I do think the show is good enough to run Breakfast closer. There are far fewer ads, or seem to be, and this can only be a good thing.
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I reread the 'ITV News at Ten returns' thread from 2008 a few weeks ago and read similar predictions, 6 years on and its still getting slaughtered by well over 2 to 1. It only continues because of ITV advertising restrictions.
Trust and brand loyalty matters and ITV from News at When to GMTV have eroded theirs and its not coming back.
PA
pad
Cando posted:
pad posted:
700k last night but I do think the show is good enough to run Breakfast closer. There are far fewer ads, or seem to be, and this can only be a good thing.
.

I reread the 'ITV News at Ten returns' thread from 2008 a few weeks ago and read similar predictions, 6 years on and its still getting slaughtered by well over 2 to 1. It only continues because of ITV advertising restrictions.
Trust and brand loyalty matters and ITV from News at When to GMTV have eroded theirs and its not coming back.

Talk about glass half empty.

Jesus.
MA
mark Founding member
They didn't lose as many viewers on Tuesday as I thought they might. And they haven't really had any big-name interviews to bring in the kind of new viewers who'll need more than a format change to whet their appetite.

So I'm optimistic, but they're going to need a thick enough skin to keep doing what they've started and build a confident and consistent show.
TR
trivialmatters
Andi Peters confirmed on the show this morning that he and his wheel of crass are sticking around for the next two weeks.

Shame.
NJ
news junkie
Andi Peters confirmed on the show this morning that he and his wheel of crass are sticking around for the next two weeks.

Shame.


Susanna didn't look too happy at that prospect either.
fanoftv, oflahertya and trivialmatters gave kudos
PE
peterh
is it better for Ben to name check the region such as over to the news in the central region with .... or even if the region is split in 2 the news in the east midlands with .. . or say whats happening closer to you with good morning central in the east midlands or something similar as far as i can work out the bulletins are
meridian x2 ,
west/ west country ,
wales
Granada,
border/ tyentees,
stv north and south ,
utv ,
Yorkshire x2 ,
Anglia x2 ,
central x2 ,
London
and channel..
Is there a 3rd stv region in the morning and/or a 3rd meridian region in the morning. in terms of as proper close it is needed. andi peters could be better utilized and its unfair to compare whole show ratings with breakfast due to that last 45 mins longer. What happens on bank holiday is interesting will there still be local news notice itv have actually listed a bulletin after each national bulletin on bank holiday for the first time i can remember it is usually just the evening more recently.
JO
Jonny
Border and Tyne Tees have separate bulletins, one live and one (assume Border) recorded.
GM
Gary McEwan
is it better for Ben to name check the region such as over to the news in the central region with .... or even if the region is split in 2 the news in the east midlands with .. . or say whats happening closer to you with good morning central in the east midlands or something similar as far as i can work out the bulletins are
meridian x2 ,
west/ west country ,
wales
Granada,
border/ tyentees,
stv north and south ,
utv ,
Yorkshire x2 ,
Anglia x2 ,
central x2 ,
London
and channel..
Is there a 3rd stv region in the morning and/or a 3rd meridian region in the morning. in terms of as proper close it is needed. andi peters could be better utilized and its unfair to compare whole show ratings with breakfast due to that last 45 mins longer. What happens on bank holiday is interesting will there still be local news notice itv have actually listed a bulletin after each national bulletin on bank holiday for the first time i can remember it is usually just the evening more recently.


No there is no 3rd STV region. I've been told by someone from STV that both North and Central are under Good Morning Scotland, however the content is different for both regions, and North is a pre-record...
ST
Standby
Cando posted:
Oh dear that's down on Daybreak year on year. s

Now, that's not true is it.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Ratings are in for Tuesday:




In terms of ratings I don't think comparing Breakfast's average with Good Morning Britain's is necessarily fair. Breakfast broadcasts 6-9:15am whereas GMB is only 6-8:30am. I'm under the impression that it's the latter part of the shows (i.e. from 8am onwards) that has the higher ratings, therefore an hourly breakdown of ratings might be better for comparison.


Definitely a good result to only drop 60k. I think this suggests that while it may have lost some who were only curious to see what it was like on Monday, it has maybe gained some casual viewers.

Also I agree it's not a fair comparison. They would have been far better putting Lorraine in the sofa area and including her under the GMB banner. This is what they do in the States with GMA/Today: the presenters change over in what is called 'the third hour'.

As well as making things clearer for ratings competition, it would have saved considerable costs.
SC
Schwing
pad posted:
If they stick to their guns and keep developing the chemistry, pacing etc, but do NOT change things that idiots want changed (i.e. 4:3 graphics) they could have a hit on their hands here. 700k last night but I do think the show is good enough to run Breakfast closer.


In all honesty, it's too soon to say that Good Morning Britain could be a hit for ITV. What we think of it here, amongst ourselves, is neither here nor there. We discuss presentation and studio design. The slightest deviation from a 'normal' rota and some members become apoplectic. Mr & Mrs Ordinary of Anytown with three children, two cars, a mortgage and a pension fund that isn't performing at all well do not care about 99% of the issues that we discuss. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again - what the general public think of Good Morning Britain is an entirely different kettle of fish to what you, me, Asa or anybody else on here thinks. Cando echoed my thoughts yesterday:

Cando posted:
It's the kind of show I'd expect many tv forumers to make with zero regards to the actual audience.


The issue of 4:3 safe area graphics exemplifies this. They may look good but are they practical? Not everybody customises their set-top box or knows how to switch between 16:9 and 4:3 on their televisions. Some people (my parents included) still have old fashioned portable TVs in their house. The TV serves a purposes. It still works. Nobody is going to change their TV in order to see graphics that are poorly executed. They'll switch to another channel instead.

Cando posted:
I reread the 'ITV News at Ten returns' thread from 2008 a few weeks ago and read similar predictions, 6 years on and its still getting slaughtered by well over 2 to 1. It only continues because of ITV advertising restrictions.
Trust and brand loyalty matters and ITV from News at When to GMTV have eroded theirs and its not coming back.


Exactly. The quality of the broadcast matters not one jot. The ITV News at Ten has exceptional reporting yet it has suffered due to poor lead-ins, scheduling issues and a need to rebrand at the drop of a hat. People like stability. They like consistency. Aside from the move to Broadcasting House, there has been no change to the BBC News at Ten. Aside from a move to Salford, people knew that they could switch on BBC Breakfast and see Bill Turnbull or Charlie Stayt or Susanna Reid. The perpetual rebranding of ITV at breakfast - from GMTV to Daybreak to Good Morning Britain - has alienated viewers. Based upon comments left on the Facebook page for Good Morning Britain, most people expect the show to change again within six to twelve months.

It is difficult to establish trust or be loyal to a brand if you don't know what that brand is.
MU
Multi
Does anyone have a clip of the first close?

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