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Good Morning Britain - the launch

(April 2014)

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CM
Cameron_Murphy
I still don't get the overall reaction. I'm gonna put it down as bad, but not as bad as we thought.


I think more people will start to watch and enjoy the programme if they give it time to grow on them.
JO
Joshua
I think the reaction was to be expected, really. Every relaunch has had negative comments on Facebook. Women (mainly) went from screaming 'Bring back Ben and Fiona' to 'Bring back Kate and Dan' which has now turned into 'Bring back Lorraine and Aled' ...thus the fans of Ben have obviously disappeared Rolling Eyes

It's laughable that people are chiming in saying 'Bring back Daybreak', too.

ITV have nothing to lose really, I mean Daybreak was never a viable programme and even though I liked it at first, compared to today's launch of GMB, you can really see that Daybreak wasn't great in terms of content.

I think that ratings will eventually settle in a higher place than that of Daybreak, but I hope that ITV execs are going to be patient - this will not happen overnight. It'll be at least a few months before any permanent improvement is seen, I think. They cannot make the same mistake as Daybreak and change the format after a few months. I really hope the news content stays quite strong.
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HJ
HJL
Also with regards to Lorraine, I thought that the programme felt awkward because she was alone, and usually has people to go through the news papers in a review with. It felt like she'd been stood up, which was weird. But I liked the was the Chef was cooking throughout the programme, rather than in an unrealistic 4 minutes!
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A former member
I hope no one is taking Paul Ogradys and bruices reviews of the programme Wink
DW
DavidWhitfield
Just watching Paul O'Grady. Both Paul himself and Bruce Forsyth have had a bit of a pop at Good Morning Britain. Paul said he was on "for all of five seconds at the end" and said he was nodding off, being forced to sit for hours on his own, and Bruce was taking the mick out of the presenters repeating themselves and saying "Paul is coming up" repeatedly when he wasn't on until 8:20pm.
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AS
ASO
Don't know if this has been posted already, so sorry if that's the case but BBC aren't being arseholes about it! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27184998
GM
gmb2014
Also with regards to Lorraine, I thought that the programme felt awkward because she was alone, and usually has people to go through the news papers in a review with. It felt like she'd been stood up, which was weird. But I liked the was the Chef was cooking throughout the programme, rather than in an unrealistic 4 minutes!


I also felt that Lorraine looked rather lonely, as there was 3 other seats at the table.
AN
Andrew Founding member
I thought it was a great start, much better than Daybreak Mk2 which was basically a thrown together thing trying too hard to be GMTV.

Liked the ITV Studios intro and the studio. I also liked Ben's intro into the regional news, it worked well on Calendar with no apparent pauses.

I'm sure the presenters roles will become a bit more apparent rather than everyone doing everything.

Some negatives that they could polish up...

Andi Peters' section - looked old fashioned and was the only bit that wasn't fast paced. They should keep him though as at least he's a decent presenter who knows TV with his many years of live TV under his belt. Decent considering they could have used someone who won the last Big Briother or someone like that, but is use him for light features rather than just the cash wheel.

No travel news, at least in my region.

Weather bug - as others have mentioned, the places were listed randomly. It'd be brilliant if they could be tailored to your region, but it might not be possible.

Too many mentions of One Direction. Yes it's ok having the item, but they didn't need to keep promoting it.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Out of interest, how many ad breaks were there?
HO
House
I think the reaction was to be expected, really. Every relaunch has had negative comments on Facebook. Women (mainly) went from screaming 'Bring back Ben and Fiona' to 'Bring back Kate and Dan' which has now turned into 'Bring back Lorraine and Aled' ...thus the fans of Ben have obviously disappeared Rolling Eyes

It's laughable that people are chiming in saying 'Bring back Daybreak', too.


Would the obvious thing to do not to have introduced the new presenters in a longer transition phase, so that there isn't the abrupt change? During the Garraway-Lobb era, Lorraine could have had an increasingly-prominent position as one of the Daybreak team long before she was named co-host. Or equally could Ben Shephard or Sean Fletcher not have been introduced as a contributor late last year, including perhaps as semi-regular presenters/ fill-ins? Just as Aled and Lorraine could have been involved somehow this morning... not because it actually achieves anything substantively, but it helps allay any sense that 'person X has been forced out' or 'I don't like person Y' when they've just joined. To take another leaf from the Americans, the promotions of nearly all of the current crop of presenters on Today and Good Morning America were introduced over many months or years as occasional fill-ins before eventually taking main positions - both broadcasters go to some length to develop onscreen 'talent' over time.

The BBC also adopts this model on Breakfast. ITV, however, seem pretty hellbent on hiring from outside the ITV family - Crosby, Chiles, Bleakley, Lobb, Jones, Reid, Fletcher, Hawkins, Barbet, Singh etc. were all prominent names from non-ITV accomplishments, and were all brand new to the ITV family upon joining the breakfast programmes. Lorraine Kelly (and the return of Ben Shephard) are the only examples that spring to mind of ITV using in-house talent for the relaunches on a permanent basis, and Shephard's just returned after years at Sky.

To be blunt, Ranvir Singh and Kate Garraway are unlikely to succeed Susanna or Charlotte in the long-term if the current lineup doesn't work out. An American broadcaster would be unlikely to keep them in those positions, in that scenario - and instead look to lower-profile, talented (if not yet perfected) presenters who could be put in the B-roles in training. ABC have just done that with Amy Robach and Ginger Zee (and brought in Michael Strahan and Toni Reali from elsewhere in the vast ABC family) following two sudden departures, and ratings have gone up; while Savannah Guthrie perhaps didn't have long enough to become accustomed with Today viewers before replacing Ann Curry, it's unthinkable at this point that Matt Lauer's replacement won't be from someone in the Today (or at the very least NBC) family - Carson Daly, or Willie Geist, who have smaller roles and are Matt's primary back ups.

Presenters are not the thing that makes a programme work - but they can be what makes it fail (case in point, Today and GMA). If viewers this morning didn't warm to Susanna Reid, I'm betting they're less likely to tune in tomorrow than a viewer who didn't warm to the content. You can hate the US broadcasts - and Today and GMA are mostly useless - but between them they make $750m+ and fund the massive news divisions. Only now do ITV seem to be trying to learn the lessons from them, and I just hope they go far enough*.


*I don't mean the broadcast should become too American, but they should observe how the American broadcasters relate to viewers and change their offering as a result.
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A former member


VM
VMPhil
Weather bug - as others have mentioned, the places were listed randomly. It'd be brilliant if they could be tailored to your region, but it might not be possible.


I reckon it is possible, but would it mean that regional newsrooms that have not yet made the switch to HD (are London and Granada the only ones?) would have to output the entirety of the programme in SD? Not that it's such a big deal obviously, especially at breakfast time, but I don't think they would go to to the bother if it meant inconveniences like that. Either that or the regional graphics would just have to look a bit poorer compared to the national ones even on SD.


If you look on TV Live for example you'll see how with the original Daybreak they tried to make every region use the same graphics as the national programme, but every region ends up looking slightly different (and slightly burry compared to the downscaled HD output of the national programme) http://www.tv-live.org.uk/wp/index.php/itv/breakfast/daybreak/2010-2011/

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