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Good Morning Britain - the launch

(April 2014)

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BA
bazinga
It's interesting that the article picked up on the 'backdrop' situation. On the one hand, I think the backdrop in the 'window' should be changed to fit in with the time of year to add a bit of realism. On the other hand, however, people slated Daybreak (version one) for being too dark, so I don't know what would be preferable. I don't think, as the article suggests, though, that people actually look at the background specifically see what the weather is like. I can't see many being shocked to find that it isn't, in fact, glorious sunshine as they step outside to go to work in the last couple of days before November.


They could, a la BBC World, have several idealised backgrounds, so 6am in December would be an early sunrise over the city, while 9am in June would be a cloudy / sunny day. But you say people wouldn't expect outside to be the same - remember someone on here did ask what phenomenon caused London to have a dark blue sky at night after having seen the nighttime version of the World backdrop.

Similar to the GMB title sequence then? If money was no object, I've had a CGI recreation of a specific view and then lit, animated and rendered to different scenes eg sunny summer day, winter sunrise, snowy Christmas etc, and if they are all from the same source image, they could seamlessly mixed to react to what is outside , plus they could then sell the clips and gain royalties etc.

I doubt it.
It doesn't seem like they'll change the backdrops anytime soon, and there's not really any reason to either. Gmtv had their Daylight London skyline during the winter/ dark mornings, GMB have screens so the view could be easily changed.
Although it may look a little odd when December arrives and the set has Christmas tree's everywhere.
FA
fanoftv
I think the issue is that they've gone for a recorded view of an actual area that people expect it to be changed. No one ever mentions changing breakfast's sunny skies in the winter nor did it appear to be an issue for the last daybreak set or GMTV's sets.

They would have to get the balance right, going for a dawn breaking sky and gradually getting lighter through the programme could work. I'm not sure that they should have it pitch black. However unlike Daybreak mk1 the set is very light an bright and could most probably carry off a darker skyline.

I like the CGI environment idea mentioned previously that could have the weather and daylight set, though it does sound complicated to create.

Also of note Ranvir sat on the opposite side of the desk this morning which when doing the news with the blue and small screens behind had a nice link to itv news.
FA
fanoftv
http://www.3cstudioinc.com/picture/img_0027.jpg?pictureId=19560583

Can someone ID what is on the screen? Also, is the frosted 'ITV fold' just a design element or an unused area?


It looks like it's something to do with a sponsorship ID on the screen.

How odd, I've never noticed that before. It looks like just a design piece but could be from the positioning of the hanging screen that it was intended for something.

I do think that they could try using the orange chairs again. Could they use two on the right (if they have them) to break up the areas that they use. The entertainment news is always nice on a Monday from the performance area.
SW
Steve Williams
mark posted:
Mark Lawson predicting that Good Morning Britain won't survive the winter on the Guardian Media Blog - apparently based on nothing other than the fact that he doesn't like it:

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2014/oct/30/good-morning-britain-itv


What a crap article, not surprising given that it's a Mark Lawson production. As you say, it's entirely based around the fact he doesn't like it, based on a flawed idea that there's only one way to do breakfast television. As mentioned, it's probably making money what with all the sponsorship, and the day-to-day cost will be tiny. As for replacing it with news and cartoons, the two genres ITV have done their hardest to try and get rid of over the past ten years, that would be some backtrack.

And yes, that is me in the comments saying the same thing.
TV
TV Archive
It's interesting that the article picked up on the 'backdrop' situation. On the one hand, I think the backdrop in the 'window' should be changed to fit in with the time of year to add a bit of realism. On the other hand, however, people slated Daybreak (version one) for being too dark, so I don't know what would be preferable. I don't think, as the article suggests, though, that people actually look at the background specifically see what the weather is like. I can't see many being shocked to find that it isn't, in fact, glorious sunshine as they step outside to go to work in the last couple of days before November.


They could, a la BBC World, have several idealised backgrounds, so 6am in December would be an early sunrise over the city, while 9am in June would be a cloudy / sunny day. But you say people wouldn't expect outside to be the same - remember someone on here did ask what phenomenon caused London to have a dark blue sky at night after having seen the nighttime version of the World backdrop.

Similar to the GMB title sequence then? If money was no object, I've had a CGI recreation of a specific view and then lit, animated and rendered to different scenes eg sunny summer day, winter sunrise, snowy Christmas etc, and if they are all from the same source image, they could seamlessly mixed to react to what is outside , plus they could then sell the clips and gain royalties etc.

I doubt it.
It doesn't seem like they'll change the backdrops anytime soon, and there's not really any reason to either. Gmtv had their Daylight London skyline during the winter/ dark mornings, GMB have screens so the view could be easily changed.
Although it may look a little odd when December arrives and the set has Christmas tree's everywhere.


I very much doubt they will change the backdrop to a dark version during the winter. At the moment it looks like it was recorded maybe around midday, if they reduce it to maybe 9-10am it could work and wouldn't be too dark. They have been using the backdrop screens for other purposes like showing VT's also:

RD
RDJ
We may get a snowy or wintry scene for Christmas I'm guessing? It would look slightly silly to dress the set for Christmas and have a summery and sunny backdrop of London behind them.
DK
DanielK
It's interesting that the article picked up on the 'backdrop' situation. On the one hand, I think the backdrop in the 'window' should be changed to fit in with the time of year to add a bit of realism. On the other hand, however, people slated Daybreak (version one) for being too dark, so I don't know what would be preferable. I don't think, as the article suggests, though, that people actually look at the background specifically see what the weather is like. I can't see many being shocked to find that it isn't, in fact, glorious sunshine as they step outside to go to work in the last couple of days before November.


They could, a la BBC World, have several idealised backgrounds, so 6am in December would be an early sunrise over the city, while 9am in June would be a cloudy / sunny day. But you say people wouldn't expect outside to be the same - remember someone on here did ask what phenomenon caused London to have a dark blue sky at night after having seen the nighttime version of the World backdrop.

Similar to the GMB title sequence then? If money was no object, I've had a CGI recreation of a specific view and then lit, animated and rendered to different scenes eg sunny summer day, winter sunrise, snowy Christmas etc, and if they are all from the same source image, they could seamlessly mixed to react to what is outside , plus they could then sell the clips and gain royalties etc.

I doubt it.
It doesn't seem like they'll change the backdrops anytime soon, and there's not really any reason to either. Gmtv had their Daylight London skyline during the winter/ dark mornings, GMB have screens so the view could be easily changed.
Although it may look a little odd when December arrives and the set has Christmas tree's everywhere.


I very much doubt they will change the backdrop to a dark version during the winter. At the moment it looks like it was recorded maybe around midday, if they reduce it to maybe 9-10am it could work and wouldn't be too dark. They have been using the backdrop screens for other purposes like showing VT's also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqWX7o-yCaI

That is just another take on the ugly spin around the desk. They could get the wideshot camera lift and zoom on the screen to go into the break, and use the jib to do the same in reverse for coming back.
FA
fanoftv
I like that spin around the desk. I'm not sure that it works with the 'window' to display images when they could have used the weather or far corner screen to display it.

This does show that it could be versatile and used to display graphics in a similar way to RI:SE mk1 back in 2002.
TV
TV Archive
I also like the spin around the desk, but I do agree they could of just used the weather screen. I don't think DanielK's idea would work as it probably would be too difficult, and the two main presenters would be in the way. Would just be easier to use another screen.
DK
DanielK
I also like the spin around the desk, but I do agree they could of just used the weather screen. I don't think DanielK's idea would work as it probably would be too difficult, and the two main presenters would be in the way. Would just be easier to use another screen.

It should be easy enough, as lifting up would allow the camera to see more of the space between the presenters, so then the camera can zoom to frame the window as full screen. Very similar shot to how they used to come out of the 6:30 regional opt.

If the camera operator can do this and get it bang on, then I'm sure they can frame the window perfectly

http://youtu.be/J_lqGenecRs?t=52s

EDIT: found a better clip
Last edited by DanielK on 30 October 2014 10:55pm
AJ
AJ
Reworking the background with CGI shouldn't be too much of a task in the hands of a professional. I suppose it really depends on how long the video loop is.

After all, look at the titles - same bit of footage, changed using CGI to give two different times of day.
MW
Mike W
AJ posted:
Reworking the background with CGI shouldn't be too much of a task in the hands of a professional. I suppose it really depends on how long the video loop is.

After all, look at the titles - same bit of footage, changed using CGI to give two different times of day.

Changed using CGI to go from sunset to sunrise, as well!

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