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CI
cityprod
But you’re comparing the performance in the ratings now against much stronger competition on the BBC. Breakfast was a completely different show back in the TV-AM and GMTV days.


Indeed - Breakfast Time hammered TV-am when it launched, then the BBC hardened it up, and the ratings shifted in ITV's way. Breakfast News was harder news still and gave GMTV a very easy time. It softened a bit in the late 90s, and by the time Breakfast launched, it was ripe for a newer approach. This was also coupled with a move to less formal presentation across BBC News.

Couple the more informal Breakfast with the scandals that hit GMTV (where it was clear a significant chunk of management despised their audience and treated them as nothing more than competition-entering cash-cows) and you can see why ITV Breakfast have had issues ever since.

Piers bumps GMBs share up a little bit when he's on - but it doesn't seem to be building hugely, and it's probably not sustainable long-term.


Exactly. Piers helps, but not much, and the current format helps, but not much.

GMTV was basically done in by their own attitude to their audience, and once the audience knew, the trust was gone. GMB is the best attempt so far at restoring that trust, but frankly, with them still running competitions on GMB and Lorraine, they're undermining their own efforts.

And whilst BBC has been very different at breakfast, compared to what it has been since 2000, the fact that TV-am and GMTV were well formatted, meant they were able to pick up the viewers that left BBC Breakfast Time when the sofa went. Had they not been, it's possible that those viewers might have just switched off breakfast TV entirely.
AN
all new Phil
GMB’s ratings today have nothing to do with the GMTV scandal and everything to do with Breakfast out-GMTVing them.
PC
p_c_u_k
GMB’s ratings today have nothing to do with the GMTV scandal and everything to do with Breakfast out-GMTVing them.


Yup. As a general rule, the UK likes two things at breakfast: 1. Cosiness, and 2. To feel like it's discovering its own stars. The Daybreak relaunch went catastrophically because media bosses in the UK can't help copying the US, where big stars who earn even bigger salaries rule the roost. We tend to react very, very badly when we think someone is getting above their station or when they're making a ****-ton of money we can't imagine having. A horrible combination of that, and trendy ideas from people who probably haven't been out of London in years, sealed its fate.

Having been hammered in this regard ITV hastily reversed back to trying to be GMTV, but discovered that everyone who wanted GMTV was now happily watching the BBC.

So in desperation they went back down the "copy the US" route and went with the several presenters at a desk routine which served RI:SE so well. They also went off and poached a huge star from the BBC, which is exactly what they did for Daybreak.

Any gains made by ITV right now are because they've tapped into the fact that this is an era which unfortunately rewards controversialists, where gullible people sharing your wind-up comments and complaining about them can actually do your marketing for free. In fairness, Piers Morgan is very good at what he does and is a magnificent interviewer when given a free run. As has been suggested though, you suspect there's a ceiling for this sort of programming and I imagine the Good Evening Britain experiment was to see if there was any way they could find a new vehicle for him.
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CI
cityprod
GMB’s ratings today have nothing to do with the GMTV scandal and everything to do with Breakfast out-GMTVing them.


Au contraire, I think they have everything to do with both. The GMTV scandal turned people away from ITV at breakfast time, BBC was well positioned to capitalise. GMB are still fighting against that history, simply because they are on ITV.

But, if BBC slips up big time, or does a lot of little things wrong that erodes the trust between viewer and broadcaster, and there's growing evidence that they are not as unbiased as they once were, then GMB needs to be able to capitalise on that, and as long as they have Piers Morgan hosting, they won't.
JO
Jon
Give us some data as to what the drop off in audience was directly after the phone in scandal?
AA
Aaron_2015
GMB recorded its highest ever audience share yesterday, with a 23.3% share and 793k viewers. I imagine Trump’s visit and England’s defeat helped to boost the numbers. Interestingly, Breakfast didn’t see a similar rise (although it was obviously ahead). The program does seem to be going from strength to strength, and ripping up the ‘breakfast rulebook’ has been an effective strategy for ITV. I saw a comment earlier in the thread which compared the show to Fox and Friends, which I don’t think is an entirely accurate comparison. The news element of the show is entirely objective, which is unlike anything on Fox News. It’ll be interesting to see how the figures hold up over summer; Alan Partridge (sorry, Richard Madeley) should keep the program in the news.

On a different note, the outside area at TVC looked fantastic on This Morning earlier. Makes you wonder if it would be practical to do an an entire GMB program from outside over the summer.
BB
BBG43
The most watched episode of gmb was the eu referendum special on the 24th June 2016
AA
Aaron_2015
BBoy posted:
The most watched episode of gmb was the eu referendum special on the 24th June 2016


Yesterday’s program had the highest audience share (23.3%) since GMB began, which is different from the number of people watching. There were more people watching television the day after the EU Referendum, hence the audience share was lower despite a high rating.
BM
BM11
Piers Morgan just sported leaving Air Force One so an interview with Trump seems to have been done.
RE
Reece24


WH
Whataday Founding member
You could have knocked me down with a feather.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Highlights to be shown on Monday's GMB with a full length special on ITV Monday night.

Quite where, I'm not sure as between Emmerdale and News at Ten you've got two episodes of Corrie and an hour and a half of The Voice Kids.

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