I know Channel 4 trailers were, during the pre-1999 period when ITV & Channel 4 still cross promoted. I remember when staying in Wales seeing trailers during GMTV explicitly mentioning Channel 4, and listing it at a different time to when S4C shunted it to.
It works both ways.... On saturday morning ITN had a news special at 08.30 , Of late there was the Parsons Green Bombing and of course Grenfall which kept GMB on air until 10.30, Then you had This morning with News extras.
IF it's planned the change over is 09.25, if its live breaking news then GMB are already in play to deal with such events until ITN get get sorted at 10.30 etc The Manchester Terror Attack happened the night before and it give ITN enough time to get sorted for the 09.25 change over, Its just common sense..
ITN is staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Granted it's a skeleton staff overnight but by 0925 there would be plenty of staff on duty to start live coverage. I think that's why staff at ITN haven't been too happy about GMB continuing news coverage after 0925.
There is another thing to consider, and it's a technical thing. TV-am didn't have regional news opt outs, and there was always a technical glitch when handing over to the other franchises. They had their own studios, wheras GMTV came from The London Studios, which were LWT's, and I'm not aware of any glitches when handing over to the other franchises, because, in effect, GMTV was a networked programme coming from LWTs studios, even though it was a separate franchise.
There were definately still "glitches" here in Yorkshire land well into the 90s. There used to be a video on YouTube of an episode of The Disney Club (quite unique in that it aired both sides of the 9:25 border, presumably because the show pre-dated GMTV) and you could see the glitch at the end of the ad break that finished at 9:25. Maybe it varied from region to region.
Disney Club was discussed previously, it aired IIRC 8am-10:20am, the first chunk went out as part of breakfast and the second half was aired as per normal via the ITV companies. Can't remember where Disney Club was coming from though.
Glitch wise, YouTube videos can lie in this regard, I'm not 100% convinced it could vary region to region, it may be machine specific - there are no end of handovers from various regions at the common points 6am, 9:25am and in London Fridays at 5:15pm where there's a recording blip and likewise some others where there isn't one. Of course its possible the uploaders have edited the video to remove it (which IMO seems pointless but there we go).
What did TV-AM do for the Telethons? Did they just carry the programme and only insert ads or did they do their own style of telethon segments?
I assume it still went out in London during the Thames Telethons? I saw a clip of a promontory one of them where its promoted as the country's first 24 hour TV programme
Even looking at clips from the late 90s/early 00s there can be some strange blips or flash frames too (though not the old non-sync cut), so there was still something going on at the handover.
With regards to Thames, their trailer for their 1985 marathon is here, but no idea what happened to TV-am that day in London (could it have been shifted to Channel 4 for one morning in one region?)
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I believe in 1990 and 1992 TVam just give the some of the slot to the Disney club
So does that mean that it TV-AM just didn't happen and they carried on?
Thats how I interpreted that post, I presume it was a normal 6am switch and TV-am fed it as an OB? Unless it was a similar arrangement to what happened in the 1987 storm where Thames was fed to the network because Camden Lock was out of action?
Disney Club was discussed previously, it aired IIRC 8am-10:20am, the first chunk went out as part of breakfast and the second half was aired as per normal via the ITV companies. Can't remember where Disney Club was coming from though.
Glitch wise, YouTube videos can lie in this regard, I'm not 100% convinced it could vary region to region, it may be machine specific - there are no end of handovers from various regions at the common points 6am, 9:25am and in London Fridays at 5:15pm where there's a recording blip and likewise some others where there isn't one. Of course its possible the uploaders have edited the video to remove it (which IMO seems pointless but there we go).
There was no regional news at the weekends, so it could be that weekends were treated as per TV-am?