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SC
scottishtv Founding member
I don't watch the show, but it would help casual readers of this thread to understand some context. I take it Piers was upset as the PM didn't want schedule an interview with Good Morning Britain? Oh, actually, a quick Google throws up the clip.

Geez, I'm glad I listen to the radio in the mornings these days.



JO
Jon
Piers and Susanna's performance that morning was truly pathetic. No matter what you think of Boris Johnson, he still is our Prime Minister, and to act the way these two asses did was truly pathetic in my opinion.

Complete bunkum! Boris’s whole raison d'ĂȘtre is that he doesn’t take himself too seriously. They probably wouldn’t have done it with David Cameron or Theresa May. We are not the US where presidents have to be treated with the upmost respect purely based on their position. In public office you don’t have an entitlement to respect, you have to command it. If you’ve spent the last 20 years making a fool out of yourself for people to like to you, and spent your time as prime minister coming out with nothing of substance, you can’t expect respect from the media.

Are Piers and Susanna so desperate to compete with the BBC? GMB is still second fiddle to the BBC in breakfast ratings - get used to it Piers and Susanna.

It’s not a case of being desperate to compete with Breakfast but knowing that they need to differentiate themselves, and one of the ways they do it is by cheeky things like that.
JO
Jon
As I think we've touched on before, Susanna's transformation into tabloid trash is pretty much complete. On several occasions she has been complicit during Piers' rants against gender issues and proven she's not the forward thinking woman she likes to make out. As if to fully establish her transformation she now has a Daily Mail column.

I would argue most of Piers’ views on ‘gender issues’ are moderate. I’d like to hear the ones you’d regard as not so.
BF
BFGArmy
As I think we've touched on before, Susanna's transformation into tabloid trash is pretty much complete. On several occasions she has been complicit during Piers' rants against gender issues and proven she's not the forward thinking woman she likes to make out. As if to fully establish her transformation she now has a Daily Mail column.


Appropriate as GMB comes across as basically the Daily Mail on TV. Loud, obnoxious and pretends to be news when it's often anything but.
Reading about the stunt GMB pulled sounds pathetic and attention seeking but looking at Twitter those involved seem to be high-fiving each other on a job well done. I feel for Ranvir to be honest - she's a solid journalist and ITV clearly rate her as she's sometimes on the evening bulletin but has to cope with this sort of nonsense.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Ranvir was clearly unhappy with this. Her comment to Piers about the viewers being more important than him quite sums it up!
WH
Whataday Founding member
Jon posted:
As I think we've touched on before, Susanna's transformation into tabloid trash is pretty much complete. On several occasions she has been complicit during Piers' rants against gender issues and proven she's not the forward thinking woman she likes to make out. As if to fully establish her transformation she now has a Daily Mail column.

I would argue most of Piers’ views on ‘gender issues’ are moderate. I’d like to hear the ones you’d regard as not so.


Mocking trangender people by 'coming out' as 'trans-slender' on air.
Persistently ridiculing Sam Smith's decision to come out as non-binary.
(Susanna later said he "chose to go non-binary")
Linking a debate on transgender children in the girl guides to a story about a rapist
Various innuendo during his Caitlyn Jenner interview
Shaming the Brits for scrapping Best Male/Female in favour of Best Artist

The sort of discussions had on that programme on a regular basis, if said about gay people would be considered an outrage.

In fact I could give you examples of some of Piers' homophobic work during the 1980s. I'm sure that would have been considered 'moderate' in those days.
BF
BFGArmy
Ranvir was clearly unhappy with this. Her comment to Piers about the viewers being more important than him quite sums it up!


You can sadly imagine her getting more of a slap of the wrist from the GMB bosses fir ‘embarassing Piers’ or ‘spoiling a viral hit’ than Piers and Susanna will for that quite embarassing, desperate stunt
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SH
Sh1ruba
Ranvir was clearly unhappy with this. Her comment to Piers about the viewers being more important than him quite sums it up!


You can sadly imagine her getting more of a slap of the wrist from the GMB bosses fir ‘embarassing Piers’ or ‘spoiling a viral hit’ than Piers and Susanna will for that quite embarassing, desperate stunt

Ranvir's better off leaving GMB and staying on with ITV News for their bulletins.

Best way for her to avoid her getting smashed by those "bosses".
Or if she was brave enough, she could say what she really thinks of GMB live on air.
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CW
CraigWills
Jon posted:
As I think we've touched on before, Susanna's transformation into tabloid trash is pretty much complete. On several occasions she has been complicit during Piers' rants against gender issues and proven she's not the forward thinking woman she likes to make out. As if to fully establish her transformation she now has a Daily Mail column.

I would argue most of Piers’ views on ‘gender issues’ are moderate. I’d like to hear the ones you’d regard as not so.


Mocking trangender people by 'coming out' as 'trans-slender' on air.
Persistently ridiculing Sam Smith's decision to come out as non-binary.
(Susanna later said he "chose to go non-binary")
Linking a debate on transgender children in the girl guides to a story about a rapist
Various innuendo during his Caitlyn Jenner interview
Shaming the Brits for scrapping Best Male/Female in favour of Best Artist

The sort of discussions had on that programme on a regular basis, if said about gay people would be considered an outrage.

In fact I could give you examples of some of Piers' homophobic work during the 1980s. I'm sure that would have been considered 'moderate' in those days.


1. I don’t think Piers is transphobic as it seems you’re trying to suggest. There’s been a number of transgender guests in the past, India Willoughby most notably, Caitlin Jenner you mention and at least one other in the last week or two iirc. In fact, Piers reiterated the idea of gender being Male, Female or Trans, suggesting he has no issue with people who are transgender, instead tasing issue with the idea of up to 100 gender terms.

2. Society is constantly adapting and evolving, however the idea of being non-binary is still a bit undefined as a subject. The idea of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender is being lumped together with a number of other gender and sexuality terms and I don’t think it’s particularly extreme to say it’s actually confusing the real issues for those who are LGBT.

3. The Brits scrapping gender categories does limit the number of artists getting awards by half. Leading award ceremonies still have gender categories and its important to make sure male and female in all industries are recognised. The majority of people are either Male or Female, wether they identify as LGB or have transitioned, they are all still either Male or Female, albeit some by birth and others are trans.

GMB is tabloid in style but I don’t any views expressed are particularly extreme and most are mainstream views.
MD
MrDexB
Countries like India and Pakistan seem to have a much better understanding of alternative options like identifying as the third gender, than anybody in the British mediascape, dominated by a moaning git, regardless of viewing figures, has.
WH
Whataday Founding member
I don’t think Piers is transphobic as it seems you’re trying to suggest.


I haven't suggested he is transphobic. I don't believe he is transphobic. I believe he uses his platform to mock and belittle people that need support. I think that's much worse.
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CI
cityprod
I don’t think Piers is transphobic as it seems you’re trying to suggest.


I haven't suggested he is transphobic. I don't believe he is transphobic. I believe he uses his platform to mock and belittle people that need support. I think that's much worse.


If you mock and belittle people who are transgender, then you are being transphobic, and Piers has done plenty of that over recent months. Every time he brings up identifying as a penguin, that is transphobic behaviour.

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