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Steve in Pudsey10,494 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Coincidentally, on this subject I've just seen a Facebook post from a BBC outlet referring to "the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall".

Technically correct but not the normal phrasing.

Edit: ah they've got the wrong names totally, it's the Cambridges
Last edited by Steve in Pudsey on 15 January 2020 1:15pm
Write that down in your copybook now.
Schwing231 posts since 13 Oct 2004
BBC World News
Diana was either 'The Princess of Wales' (or Princess Charles - which was never used), then after her divorce 'Diana, Princess of Wales', which was less stuffy than the more formal 'Dowager Princess of Wales'.

Meghan is 'The Duchess of Sussex'. Referring to her as 'Meghan, Duchess of Sussex' is a form of address following a divorce (as with Diana) or death of her husband. This is to differentiate her from any future wife of Harry (or wife of his son) who would hold the title 'The Duchess of Sussex'.


The term 'Dowager Princess of Wales' could not be used following her divorce. A dowager is - by definition - a widow. A divorce terminates any form of dower right.

The use of 'X, Duchess of Y' is problematic. It does not exist officially. In order to use the form of 'X, Duchess of Y', Letters Patent of HM The Queen are required (as in the case of both Diana, Princess of Wales, and Sarah, Duchess of York). The problem is the Royal Family itself . They use the terms quite freely. Statements issued by Buckingham Palace, Clarence House, St James's Palace and Kensington Palace refer to the both 'The Duchess of Y' and/or 'X, Duchess of Y'. It isn't a new phenomenon; both the Duchess of Kent and the Duchess of Gloucester have been referred to by the first name followed by their title since the 1970s. The Countess of Wessex is referred to as such today.
thegeek5,194 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London
Any wife during his Father's lifetime would be 'The Countess of Dunbarton'.

I realise this one is probably just a typo, but it should be Dumbarton. Dumbarton is in West Dunbartonshire. I have no idea why this is so confusing.
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Stuart and Lou Scannon gave kudos
Neil Jones5,793 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
Daily Fail up to its usual half-arsed research standards again:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7891741/Ulrika-Jonsson-52-returns-present-weather-Good-Morning-Britain.html posted:
Ulrika [Johnson] chatted [about] her old job as a weather presenter on TV-am, having been one of the main stars of the show before it was re-branded as GMTV


Also seems to claim she stopped being a weather presenter to do Gladiators...
JAS844,315 posts since 26 Aug 2010
Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Blame Wikipedia for that.
Quote:
Eva Ulrika Jonsson (born 16 August 1967) is a United Kingdom-based Swedish television presenter and model. She became known as a TV-am weather presenter, moved on to present Gladiators,


But if she was still on TV-am at the end, then the timing is just a coincidence, since Gladiators started in 1992 and TV-am ended a couple of months later.
Neil Jones5,793 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
Yes but Gladiators first aired in October 1992 and I believe it would have been recorded most probably in the summer of 1992 at the latest, more likely late Spring?

Actually Jonsson doesn't appear far as I can see in the "last minutes of the last TV-am" video that AP Archive uploaded to YouTube (or any of the other footage from that edition on the Gavin Martin channel that I've just had a very quick scoot through) so maybe she did leave earlier in 1992 than I recall?

Not going to forgive the "TV-am rebranded as GMTV" thing though, that is sloppy research if nothing else, but on the other hand that's how it would have looked to the viewers so...
Whataday10,406 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Actually Jonsson doesn't appear far as I can see in the "last minutes of the last TV-am" video that AP Archive uploaded to YouTube (or any of the other footage from that edition on the Gavin Martin channel that I've just had a very quick scoot through) so maybe she did leave earlier in 1992 than I recall?


You must have had your eyes closed as she's quite clearly next to Mad Lizzie in the clip you mentioned:

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There's also quite a famous clip Bobby Davro doing the weather dressed as her, before she shoves him off screen, and that happened on the last day too. She was definitely there as a guest though. She sat on the sofa chatting alongside Davro and a few other guests.