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JO
Joe
Please stop this bickering. It's very typical of this thread.
UT
utternutter
Please stop this bickering. It's very typical of this thread.


I know!! However there are one or two who love to argue!!
KP
KelpieP0921
I am one that only dips in and out of this thread, I thought you would all find it useful to find out this information. In the end we have to wait and see on the music.
HO
House
Frankly I'm a little puzzled as to why it matters whether the music is finished now or not. The vast majority here won't hear it before September, so what difference does it make? I was simply ensuring Palkowhatsitcalled realised who Anoilyrag is, to ensure he wasn't one of these who pretended to be in the know.
CH
Chie
I've seen the American show in question, and that only works because there are so many people about on Times Square that it always looks busy and bustling.

The embankment is very busy and bustling too.

But can you imagine how depressing it'll look on a dark, December morning on a deserted Embankment when it's chucking it down and blowing a gale outside?

How would you be able to tell if it's blowing a gale when there's no leaves on the trees?

Anyway who cares, frankly? It's the weather - it's what it does. I'm sure the presenters' personalities, the amazing studio and uplifting music will more than compensate for any dreary weather in the background. Do people really pay attention to what the weather's doing outside on This Morning and The One Show?
NG
noggin Founding member
Chie posted:

10 million people don't work, and a further 10 million are retired. It's not all about working people.


Yep - though to be honest ITV have little or no interest in many of the people making up those groups as they are not desirable advertising targets. Remember, the programmes on ITV are only there to fill the gaps in between the commercials, and ensure as many of the right sort of people watch the commercials... If you're not going to buy the products being advertised in a break, you mean nothing to ITV.

Ironically I suspect that the BBC Breakfast audience is FAR more desirable to advertisers than GMTVs - not just in volume, but in profile.
IS
Inspector Sands
Chie posted:
I've seen the American show in question, and that only works because there are so many people about on Times Square that it always looks busy and bustling.

The embankment is very busy and bustling too.

Not really, at least at that time in the morning. There's a handful of people walking or jogging along it on the way to work. It's definitely not in the league of Times Square, they'd need a studio opening up onto Leicester Square, Covent Garden, a station or one of the circuses to get anywhere close.

It's also worth noting the building doesn't directly adjoin the embankment, there's a sunken service road and a high fence between the two. Plus the studio is on the 3rd floor, it's wouldn't be a thing of just popping outside to interview passers by like GMA
SP
Spencer
Chie posted:
But can you imagine how depressing it'll look on a dark, December morning on a deserted Embankment when it's chucking it down and blowing a gale outside?

How would you be able to tell if it's blowing a gale when there's no leaves on the trees?


Because they tend to blow around when they're no longer on the trees.

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Anyway who cares, frankly? It's the weather - it's what it does. I'm sure the presenters' personalities, the amazing studio and uplifting music will more than compensate for any dreary weather in the background. Do people really pay attention to what the weather's doing outside on This Morning and The One Show?


You said earlier that the purpose of a window backdrop was to give the programme a 'creative, atmospheric edge' over BBC Breakfast. So how does 'dreary' achieve that?

I also think it's different at breakfast time compared to other times of the day. Personally I find there's nothing more depressing than waking up to a dark, wet, miserable morning in the winter. The last thing I want is a constant reminder of how crap it is outside on a supposedly cheerful TV programme. In the case of This Morning, they also have the advantage that it's always daylight outside when it's on.
CH
Chie
Not really, at least at that time in the morning. There's a handful of people walking or jogging along it on the way to work. It's definitely not in the league of Times Square, they'd need a studio opening up onto Leicester Square, Covent Garden, a station or one of the circuses to get anywhere close.

I didn't suggest they'd need to get 'anywhere close' to the busyness of Times Square. That would be quite distracting.

Because they tend to blow around when they're no longer on the trees.

It's raining, remember. The leaves are wet.

You said earlier that the purpose of a window backdrop was to give the programme a 'creative, atmospheric edge' over BBC Breakfast. So how does 'dreary' achieve that?

I also think it's different at breakfast time compared to other times of the day. Personally I find there's nothing more depressing than waking up to a dark, wet, miserable morning in the winter. The last thing I want is a constant reminder of how crap it is outside on a supposedly cheerful TV programme.

But if you work then you're going to be out in it soon enough yourself. Only delaying the inevitable, isn't it?

In the case of This Morning, they also have the advantage that it's always daylight outside when it's on.

That is a good point. You wouldn't be able to see the dreary weather because it would be dark.

It's also worth noting the building doesn't directly adjoin the embankment, there's a sunken service road and a high fence between the two. Plus the studio is on the 3rd floor, it's wouldn't be a thing of just popping outside to interview passers by like GMA

Oh well.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Chie posted:
Not really, at least at that time in the morning. There's a handful of people walking or jogging along it on the way to work. It's definitely not in the league of Times Square, they'd need a studio opening up onto Leicester Square, Covent Garden, a station or one of the circuses to get anywhere close.

I didn't suggest they'd need to get 'anywhere close' to the busyness of Times Square. That would be quite distracting.

Because they tend to blow around when they're no longer on the trees.

It's raining, remember. The leaves are wet.

You said earlier that the purpose of a window backdrop was to give the programme a 'creative, atmospheric edge' over BBC Breakfast. So how does 'dreary' achieve that?

I also think it's different at breakfast time compared to other times of the day. Personally I find there's nothing more depressing than waking up to a dark, wet, miserable morning in the winter. The last thing I want is a constant reminder of how crap it is outside on a supposedly cheerful TV programme.

But if you work then you're going to be out in it soon enough yourself. Only delaying the inevitable, isn't it?

In the case of This Morning, they also have the advantage that it's always daylight outside when it's on.

That is a good point. You wouldn't be able to see the dreary weather because it would be dark.

It's also worth noting the building doesn't directly adjoin the embankment, there's a sunken service road and a high fence between the two. Plus the studio is on the 3rd floor, it's wouldn't be a thing of just popping outside to interview passers by like GMA

Oh well.


Why bother rebutting all of those salient points if you're only going to acknowledge in the closing sentence that the game's a bogey?

Hmmmmmm?
Last edited by Gavin Scott on 24 June 2010 2:02pm
CH
Chie
They won't bother trying to rebut my rebuttals now, because it looks as though I've conceded defeat.

I have therefore had the last word on the matter.

(But they'll probably give it a go now they've read this...)
SP
Spencer
Chie posted:
They won't bother trying to rebut my rebuttals now, because it looks as though I've conceded defeat.

I have therefore had the last word on the matter.


Congratulations. It clearly means a lot to you.

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