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WE
Westy2
Having real windows on studio sets can be a right pain though. Can cause all kinds of problems with lighting levels in the studio. I think This morning have some kind of filter over the window but im not totally sure on that and there window is confined to only one part of the set. I always remember BBC News 24 when it first moved into N8 and had the desk looking over the Mezz with the big windows in the background the blinds were nearly always closed due to the lighting from outside drowning the cameras.


Windows are a real challenge for lighting. This Morning uses a Rosco or similar gauze over the windows when it is very sunny (sometimes it looks like they use more than one layer) - which is essentially material with lots of tiny holes in it to massively reduce the light levels. (Trying to light a studio to match lunchtime summer sun is almost impossible without cooking people...)

Other solutions are to have frames of Neutral Density material (essentiall large bits of gel that cut down the light coming through) that can be placed over the windows, or alternatively you can (as many US broadcasters do) use polarising filters on the windows with complementary filters on the cameras (that effectively let you reduce the visibility of the direct light coming through the windows by rotating the polarising material on the camera). Polarisers don't cut down indirectly reflected light by the same amount though (as reflection will randomise polarisation) - so if you have sunlight hitting a sofa back, presenters hair etc. you can end up with very bright halos (the direct light is cut down massively, but the bounced stuff less-so). It is also very bright in the studio still with polarisers (as you're only cutting down the light the camera sees, not reducing the light levesl for people in the studio)

All of these require skill, and in some cases a lot of adjustment by people who know what they are doing. Most news-style shows will run on lower-levels of people, and with more multi-skilled staff who may not have these skills. (I would expect This Morning to have a more experienced lighting crew than GMTV for instance)


How did BBC Birmingham manage with the old Pebble Mill foyer & to a lesser extent, the 'second set' area near the Mailbox newsroom that the Politics Show uses, as I thought that was getting a little 'bright' on occasion?
MW
Mike W
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How did BBC Birmingham manage with the old Pebble Mill foyer & to a lesser extent, the 'second set' area near the Mailbox newsroom that the Politics Show uses, as I thought that was getting a little 'bright' on occasion?


The Mailbox's windows facing the canal have this weird 'tinted' sticky back plastic applied to them (same with the MT Newsroom window).
GO
GOS
I don't agree with peoples sugestions of a more 'This morning' style format after 7. GMTV's highest viewing figures are between 7 and 8 when people are waking up - wanting news. With Jeremy Kyle moving, it would be better to see the 'This Morning' format during GMTV with Lorraine. (thats if this kitchen idea does materialise)

I am also having difficulty with the idea that GMTV's former newshour should be an ITV news clone. GMTV is far more easier to watch than the early morning ITV News and having GMTV presenters present from ITV News studio is pretty ludicrous!

I think the current GMTV set is perfectly acceptable, especially the sofa area where the fake backdrop looks 100% better than the view seen from the skyline studio. What GMTV really need is more floor space!!!!


Where and when is Jeremy Kyle moving?
NE
newsatten
GOS posted:
I don't agree with peoples sugestions of a more 'This morning' style format after 7. GMTV's highest viewing figures are between 7 and 8 when people are waking up - wanting news. With Jeremy Kyle moving, it would be better to see the 'This Morning' format during GMTV with Lorraine. (thats if this kitchen idea does materialise)

I am also having difficulty with the idea that GMTV's former newshour should be an ITV news clone. GMTV is far more easier to watch than the early morning ITV News and having GMTV presenters present from ITV News studio is pretty ludicrous!

I think the current GMTV set is perfectly acceptable, especially the sofa area where the fake backdrop looks 100% better than the view seen from the skyline studio. What GMTV really need is more floor space!!!!


Where and when is Jeremy Kyle moving?


I'm sure ages ago it was reported that it was going to be gone by February - haven't heard anything else since though!
TV
TV Geek
GOS posted:
I don't agree with peoples sugestions of a more 'This morning' style format after 7. GMTV's highest viewing figures are between 7 and 8 when people are waking up - wanting news. With Jeremy Kyle moving, it would be better to see the 'This Morning' format during GMTV with Lorraine. (thats if this kitchen idea does materialise)

I am also having difficulty with the idea that GMTV's former newshour should be an ITV news clone. GMTV is far more easier to watch than the early morning ITV News and having GMTV presenters present from ITV News studio is pretty ludicrous!

I think the current GMTV set is perfectly acceptable, especially the sofa area where the fake backdrop looks 100% better than the view seen from the skyline studio. What GMTV really need is more floor space!!!!


Where and when is Jeremy Kyle moving?


I'm sure ages ago it was reported that it was going to be gone by February - haven't heard anything else since though!


It was also reported that it was being phased out with 3 repeats a week, and completely gone by February. Neither have happened. It was also in the Daily Star. They've been making a massive thing out of the 1000th show lately- I think its safe to say its going nowhere in the near future.
GO
GOS
GOS posted:
I don't agree with peoples sugestions of a more 'This morning' style format after 7. GMTV's highest viewing figures are between 7 and 8 when people are waking up - wanting news. With Jeremy Kyle moving, it would be better to see the 'This Morning' format during GMTV with Lorraine. (thats if this kitchen idea does materialise)

I am also having difficulty with the idea that GMTV's former newshour should be an ITV news clone. GMTV is far more easier to watch than the early morning ITV News and having GMTV presenters present from ITV News studio is pretty ludicrous!

I think the current GMTV set is perfectly acceptable, especially the sofa area where the fake backdrop looks 100% better than the view seen from the skyline studio. What GMTV really need is more floor space!!!!


Where and when is Jeremy Kyle moving?


I'm sure ages ago it was reported that it was going to be gone by February - haven't heard anything else since though!


It was also reported that it was being phased out with 3 repeats a week, and completely gone by February. Neither have happened. It was also in the Daily Star. They've been making a massive thing out of the 1000th show lately- I think its safe to say its going nowhere in the near future.


That's a shame is it really that popular. I used to like 'The Time The Place'.
JB
JasonB
Jeremy Kyle is still advertising for future shows in between ad breaks of current shows with contact numbers visible, if the show was axed I'm sure the contact numbers would have been hidden by now or the adverts taken away altogether.
NG
noggin Founding member

How did BBC Birmingham manage with the old Pebble Mill foyer & to a lesser extent, the 'second set' area near the Mailbox newsroom that the Politics Show uses, as I thought that was getting a little 'bright' on occasion?


I think Pebble Mill may have used polarising filters at one point (probably very expensive in those days) and may also have ensured that the location didn't shoot straight into the sun during TX hours.

The Mailbox used a LOT of lighting for The Politics Show set ISTR - and may have some ND on the windows. The News 24 down-the-line position, which was in a similar location to the Politics Show set, used to look terrible in bright sunlight. (They now use a CSO position - though that may have more to do with the original view becoming a building site)
MW
Mike W
(They now use a CSO position - though that may have more to do with the original view becoming a building site)


The Cube's nearly done now.
CR
Critique
Clare was back on the weather today, and during my 7:07 bulletin, the clock didn't change, it stayed the same, with the GMTV logo and time, same size, and in the same place, didn't even notice the switch. Didn't happen at 6:35 or 8:07
TV
TV Geek
Clare was back on the weather today, and during my 7:07 bulletin, the clock didn't change, it stayed the same, with the GMTV logo and time, same size, and in the same place, didn't even notice the switch. Didn't happen at 6:35 or 8:07


I do like Kirsty but I preferred her on the BBC, I don't think shes right for GMTV so it was great to see Clare back. And she looks fantastic!
BP
bpmikey
Clare was back on the weather today, and during my 7:07 bulletin, the clock didn't change, it stayed the same, with the GMTV logo and time, same size, and in the same place, didn't even notice the switch. Didn't happen at 6:35 or 8:07


I do like Kirsty but I preferred her on the BBC, I don't think shes right for GMTV so it was great to see Clare back. And she looks fantastic!


i agree, she looks amazing! And kirsty seemed more at home on the BBC!

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