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TV Geek
aconnell posted:
Surely people just want to see the headlines and the news at the top of the hour. Not logos, shapes and whatever else flying around in all directions. Far too American and dramatic. Let's hope they change it, like they always do.

I don't want X Factor thrown at my face every five minutes. I really thought that GMTV would turn the corner. They are just the same as they were years ago. Isn't that why Eamonn left, because it was too entertainment-based? It has always been known that GMTV is watched by people with little education, who want to know what X Factor was like, or what's going on in the soaps. I want proper news, by people who know what they're on about.


Don't watch GMTV then if you want news. People know that if you watch GMTV, you'll get a bit of news (but nothing too in depth), some current affairs, real life and entertainment items. If you want news you can watch BBC1 (although that is going the same way as GMTV lately) or one of the many news channels available. Its also a bit of a sweeping statement to say GMTV is watched by those with very little education.

By the way, does anyone have the Lorraine opening from this morning? I want to see what the fuss about her hideous logo is about Laughing
YO
yorkshire2010
I think GMTV With Lorraine today was treated like it was news programme, and I thought it was a little over the top having the same Intro Presentations as the Main Show with the boxes. I Think it maybe was better to keep it as it was was before as it is an Fasion/Entertainment based programme.
AC
aconnell
chris posted:
aconnell posted:
Working for GMTV or any company in fact, you would be biased or subjective, in favour of the company you work for.


Naturally, but there's no need to be so rude about it.


I wasn't meaning to be rude at all. I was saying that generally, in any company, you would stick up of the company you work for. Of course, I do respect everyone's opinions. I'm not disputing that.

Both breakfast programmes have their strengths. BBC Breakfast is from BBC News, so its impartiality and standards of reporting are therefore much higher than GMTV. Their subject matters, such as a mix of news, sport, business and some entertainment, might be more appealing for some.

GMTV has a more light-hearted approach. Some may feel that the atmosphere to the programme is more inviting for a morning show. It, too, has a generous mix of news, entertainment, weather and other features. I don't know how relevant the story about the mother and daughter, who refuses to go to school, is. For the average Joe, they don't want flying things, and spinning things and all the rest of it.
SK
skynewsfreak
NorthyNorfolk posted:
I think GMTV With Lorraine today was treated like it was news programme, and I thought it was a little over the top having the same Intro Presentations as the Main Show with the boxes. I Think it maybe was better to keep it as it was was before as it is an Fasion/Entertainment based programme.


Does anyone have a clip of the opening? Wink
CR
Critique
I'm not that sure about the new look. It'll grow on me, but I think it's all right. The voiceover isn't the best, but I like the News Graphics, Much more slicker with tapes and so on.
AC
aconnell
NorthyNorfolk posted:
I think GMTV With Lorraine today was treated like it was news programme, and I thought it was a little over the top having the same Intro Presentations as the Main Show with the boxes. I Think it maybe was better to keep it as it was was before as it is an Fasion/Entertainment based programme.


I have noticed that her programme isn't quite the same as it was. It doesn't seem to be the same fashion/entertainment mix that it once was. A little too news based for what the average viewer wants.
CH
chris
aconnell posted:
chris posted:
aconnell posted:
Working for GMTV or any company in fact, you would be biased or subjective, in favour of the company you work for.


Naturally, but there's no need to be so rude about it.


I wasn't meaning to be rude at all. I was saying that generally, in any company, you would stick up of the company you work for. Of course, I do respect everyone's opinions. I'm not disputing that.

Both breakfast programmes have their strengths. BBC Breakfast is from BBC News, so its impartiality and standards of reporting are therefore much higher than GMTV. Their subject matters, such as a mix of news, sport, business and some entertainment, might be more appealing for some.

GMTV has a more light-hearted approach. Some may feel that the atmosphere to the programme is more inviting for a morning show. It, too, has a generous mix of news, entertainment, weather and other features. I don't know how relevant the story about the mother and daughter, who refuses to go to school, is. For the average Joe, they don't want flying things, and spinning things and all the rest of it.


Sorry aconnell, I wasn't saying you were rude, I was meaning anoilyrag. I do completely agree with everything you said.
AN
anoilyrag
chris posted:
aconnell posted:
chris posted:
aconnell posted:
Working for GMTV or any company in fact, you would be biased or subjective, in favour of the company you work for.


Naturally, but there's no need to be so rude about it.


I wasn't meaning to be rude at all. I was saying that generally, in any company, you would stick up of the company you work for. Of course, I do respect everyone's opinions. I'm not disputing that.

Both breakfast programmes have their strengths. BBC Breakfast is from BBC News, so its impartiality and standards of reporting are therefore much higher than GMTV. Their subject matters, such as a mix of news, sport, business and some entertainment, might be more appealing for some.

GMTV has a more light-hearted approach. Some may feel that the atmosphere to the programme is more inviting for a morning show. It, too, has a generous mix of news, entertainment, weather and other features. I don't know how relevant the story about the mother and daughter, who refuses to go to school, is. For the average Joe, they don't want flying things, and spinning things and all the rest of it.


Sorry aconnell, I wasn't saying you were rude, I was meaning anoilyrag. I do completely agree with everything you said.


Was just going to say, not sure it was you that was being labelled rude.
AC
aconnell
I do like GMTV, though. I tend to alternate between GMTV and Breakfast, depending on what's on. I think that if you combined elements from Breakfast, GMTV and Sunrise, you would really get a really good show. With a few more tweaks and changes to GMTV, it could really be something excellent then. By all means, discuss the changes, and do respect everyone's opinions. I think that's a fundamental rule for TV Forum.
AC
aconnell
GMTV009 posted:
I'm not that sure about the new look. It'll grow on me, but I think it's all right. The voiceover isn't the best, but I like the News Graphics, Much more slicker with tapes and so on.


I really like the animation of the straps.

http://www.tv-live.org.uk/wb/media/gmtv/august2009/0028.jpg

The background, and the two-way graphic is very impressive.
AB
ashley b Founding member
anoilyrag posted:
Breakfast is not the opposition, GMTV cares not for it's ageing audience (sorry, I mean an audience constantly maturing).
And I'm not blind, he is fat (as opposed to clinically obese, or whatever the PC term is)

Yes, in a break from the last year, I am feeling a little brash. I suppose it's the realisation that change meets opposition from refusniks and naysayers.
You know what GMTV is like. They trial stuff on air, and change it if they don't like it. It's constantly evolving, and unpredictable. It doesn't have a committee of people deciding the presentation, but it has a razor-sharp editorial that knows its audience. You can't tell me that when you watch you're not secretly hoping for an on-air gaff or something else that celebrates the fact it's LIVE? What other channel/programme transmits 3 1/2 hours live a day and has as much fun or variation?
Back to you.


But why did it need saying at all? You seem to have said it in a negative sence that makes it sound like being fat is a bad thing.

Okay so Breakfast isn't your opposition. Is 'alternative' a better term for them? I don't see it makes being critical about the pysical appearence of thier presenters any better. You can be critical of other programmes without the need to resort to personal digs. I could think Penny Smith is fat (I don't, I'm just being hyperthetical), after all, I'm not blind! But there is no reason for me to state such a thing as it has no affect on her abilities as a presenter nor of the quality of GMTV.

You seem to be getting very defensive about something which is, after all, very subjective. Some people won't like the changes, it's a fact of life, you will never please everyone. Maybe you should just chill out a bit and relax rather than going round calling people fat, it's only a TV Forum!

You should know what TVForum is like, it is overly critical and dramatic, it's what TV Forum is. And we know what GMTV is like too, they do test things on air and then pull them if they think they don't work (and sometime even if we think they do work). I'm sure a lot of people here wish that more tv companies were like GMTV in their ways of trying new things and respect them for that.

I switch between Breakfast and GMTV depending on my mood and what I'm after in the morning. There are elements of both which I don't like, but that's just me, I'm guessing neither of them are specifically targeting me anyway, it's to be expected that they'll be things I don't like.
DV
DVB Cornwall
So after 220 odd pages of posts in this thread, the esteemed moderators of this board choose to keep it in the Home Forum rather than moving it to Newsroom. Says it all really. TV-am at the start would most definitely have been classified as News, GMTV regardless of whatever graphic changes are imposed will still be tabloid 'journalism' at it's best.

Maybe making an offer to Matthew Wright to bring 'The Wright Stuff' to GMTV would improve it's performance.

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