Went slightly tits up here in the North West with the link back at 6:17 flicking from colour to black and white, then back to colour, then back to black and white, then it hued the entire spectrum, eventually coming back in colour and carrying on.
Oh the joys of live TV. Oh and the post about the clock being 13:03 is correct, it's kept on screen during the recording and then the live clock is placed over the top. It has read 5:23 once when the clock failed.
The clock you're seeing on those screen grabs is the GMTV clock at the time of the 'GMTV with Lorraine' recording. As GMTV isn't on air past 9.25 the clock has been designed with that in mind thus leaving no space for extra digits. The clock that reads 3:08 is actually in 24 hour mode at 13:08 the time of day that, that particualy segment of 'GMTV with Lorraine' was being recorded on at the start of the week. Normally the GMTV clock covers this up but because of today's problems it wasn't covered with anything.
Where were you last week when I was asking about the clock?
Burning the clock on to the programme seems an odd thing to do. Not only could the live clock break down like we saw today but what if they want to repeat any part of the show for some reason? What if they want to repeat part of the show in ten years time when they have new graphics that don't cover the same parts of the screen? What benefit does keeping the clock on screen give them?
I noticed that the Dr. Hilary Jones bit had graphics burnt in to it too, in this case it was a 'for more info.....' ticker.
Its interesting that GMTV use a 24 hour clock. I thought the 3:08 meant it was 3 hours and eight minutes since the power came back on but a truncated 13:08 also makes sense.
I didn't think they burned the clock onto a recording either. As when you watch again online, there isn't a clock.
I'm lead to believe that the promo tease only has the clock burnt into it, whereas the main programme does not.
Maybe this is an obvious question, but why?
I have no idea. Noticed it first last year, during the tease for LK Today... again when the clock was missing.
I know that the name/coming up straps are burnt in during the pre-recorded shows, as they appear on the online clips.
Where were you last week when I was asking about the clock?
Burning the clock on to the programme seems an odd thing to do. Not only could the live clock break down like we saw today but what if they want to repeat any part of the show for some reason? What if they want to repeat part of the show in ten years time when they have new graphics that don't cover the same parts of the screen? What benefit does keeping the clock on screen give them?
I noticed that the Dr. Hilary Jones bit had graphics burnt in to it too, in this case it was a 'for more info.....' ticker.
Its interesting that GMTV use a 24 hour clock. I thought the 3:08 meant it was 3 hours and eight minutes since the power came back on but a truncated 13:08 also makes sense.
Right, to explain the clock isn't burnt on throughout the entire pre-record it only appears during 'wipe sequences' so on the opening sequence, tease into break and the teases that are recorded for 0745 and 0830 the way the vision mixing desk is programmed means that when a wipe is triggered it cuts the clock on automatically the vision mixer will then mix or cut the clock off again on the next transition. So in summary the clock isn't on throughout the whole pre-record.
Secondly several different recording of GMTV are made each day, a PAB (programme as broadcast) this recording gets all graphics, straps, digital effects and indeed the clock on it as it is taken straight from off air. The other is a clean feed recording this has no graphics and fancy transitions this is done via a feed from the vision mixing desk - so in ten years time if they wanted to show a clip of Ronan Keating sitting talking to Andrew they could have a clean version without the clock or any name straps on it.
The Dr Hillary VT with the yellow ticker burnt on is to help the control room out and the producer might want it to come on and off in certain places and it saves the control room time by burning it on in the edit.
the Big Breakfast clock had the same problem when they started doing the bigger breakfast. The original clock was three digits, like 7:00 so there was no space for the 1 once it got past 10am on the bigger breakfast so the clock would dissapear at 9:58 and a different clock come back on at 10:00. later they changed it to show a leading 0, '07:00' so that they could keep the clock running from 7am until midday
and if you saw the biggest breakfast ever on millennuim morning you would have seen that it was a 12 hour clock as it started with 12:30 not 00:30
again the clock is transmitted seperatly as it does not show on clips.
the GMTV clock did make a late night apperence on Graham Norton's show once and they put up the real time of 10:30 which shows it was a 12 hour clock
the Big Breakfast clock had the same problem when they started doing the bigger breakfast. The original clock was three digits, like 7:00 so there was no space for the 1 once it got past 10am on the bigger breakfast so the clock would dissapear at 9:58 and a different clock come back on at 10:00. later they changed it to show a leading 0, '07:00' so that they could keep the clock running from 7am until midday
and if you saw the biggest breakfast ever on millennuim morning you would have seen that it was a 12 hour clock as it started with 12:30 not 00:30
again the clock is transmitted seperatly as it does not show on clips.
On the Christmas day 1997 show, the clip above shows the normal clock and a couple of seconds later the normal clock dissapears and a different clock replaces it.
Doesn't really prove anything does it? It looks more like a viewer's off-air recording rather than something recorded direct from the gallery on a second output without the graphics.
It looks like the same system is providing both the clock and the name astons, but I get the feeling that that system went a little bit wrong - you can see those green flashes at about 0:26, and the clock disappeared when the name strap came on. I suspect they took that off the screen and switched to an alternative method of displaying the clock while they rebooted it.
It looks like the same system is providing both the clock and the name astons, but I get the feeling that that system went a little bit wrong - you can see those green flashes at about 0:26, and the clock disappeared when the name strap came on. I suspect they took that off the screen and switched to an alternative method of displaying the clock while they rebooted it.
Who would have taken the clock off screen? This was a Christmas day episode, so it would have been pre-recorded but maybe the clock was live? That would explain why the name aston worked even after the clock failed as the aston would probably be recorded on to the playout tape. I would have guessed it was being played out from Channel 4 rather than The Big Breakfast house but seeing this video makes me think otherwise. Would Channel 4 have had the ability to not only generate the live clock but also the ability to switch to a different clock when there was problems and so quickly too?
I now think someone must have been at the Big Breakfast house and Channel 4 put them live to air like any other day and they just played a tape and kept a very close eye on the clock just hoping for it to fail so they would have something to do on Christmas morning. Anyone know for sure how these pre-recorded episodes were done?
It looks like the same system is providing both the clock and the name astons, but I get the feeling that that system went a little bit wrong - you can see those green flashes at about 0:26, and the clock disappeared when the name strap came on. I suspect they took that off the screen and switched to an alternative method of displaying the clock while they rebooted it.
Who would have taken the clock off screen? This was a Christmas day episode, so it would have been pre-recorded but maybe the clock was live? That would explain why the name aston worked even after the clock failed as the aston would probably be recorded on to the playout tape. I would have guessed it was being played out from Channel 4 rather than The Big Breakfast house but seeing this video makes me think otherwise. Would Channel 4 have had the ability to not only generate the live clock but also the ability to switch to a different clock when there was problems and so quickly too?
The clock that replaced it was in the style of Channel 4's presentation at the time so it suggests that Channel 4 put it on.