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Global Radio axes all regional/local breakfast shows

(February 2019)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
JCB posted:

We really don't know what Global's plans in the future are for those national breakfast slots. They may keep the cheaper presenters such as Martin Kemp's son who currently presents Capital's breakfast show or in the future go for someone with a larger national presence. We've already seen that Global have got the chequebook out to grab Eddie Mair from Radio 4 to LBC for example.


I can see Scott Mills being a potential target. Seems a perfect fit for a national Heart breakfast show I think.

It's difficult to see Scott Mills Leaving the BBC, but I have to agree, think he would be a perfect fit.

The problem is that the content Heart and Capital do is a million miles away from Radio 1 and 2. Mostly short links about showbiz news

Unless they just go for the money, having one foot still in the door at the BBC is probably better than working at one of those stations. You still get involved in station wide features and events, get to do cover shows, mentioned by other DJs etc.

This is why I feel the likes of Edith Bowman and Huw Stephens still stuck around at BBC Radio 1 despite having crap slots, and why Chris Moyles may regret leaving the BBC besides looking at his bank balance
BR
Brekkie
JCB posted:
I can see Scott Mills being a potential target. Seems a perfect fit for a national Heart breakfast show I think.

It's difficult to see Scott Mills Leaving the BBC, but I have to agree, think he would be a perfect fit.

I'd say he is long overdue leaving Radio 1, but with no obvious slot for him on Radio 2 and him not being cool enough for 6Music his prospects lie elsewhere, and agree actually he would be a good fit on Heart.


As for the wider situation of replacing local presenters with big names and all that does IMO is further disconnect the stations from the listeners. Radio is quite different from TV and is much more about having a conversation with the audience and actually being too famous and in that celebrity world can be a bit of a hindrance.

There is something that shouldn't be taken for granted about having presenters talk about local events and places the audiences can connect with. When Emma Bunton talks about going shopping or down the pub it's somehow not as relatable as the audience as somebody who is unknown outside of their own radio show.
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MA
Markymark
If local radio was starting again from scratch, I think regional radio would be the ideal size in this day and age, and should really have been able to operate fully regional on that basis. People tend to travel around their region more than they might have done in the 70s rather than being city bound.

Some of the traditional ILR stations are smaller than BBC Local Radio stations, and as they won’t be doing much public service stuff like school closures these days there is no reason why an ILR that is the size of 2-3 BBC stations wouldn’t have been sustainable, still local enough to connect to the listener, but still big enough to not sound tin-pot and be able to get guests in.

Therefore I would have scrapped independent local radio but ensure there is regional radio that is fully local throughout the day. Capital and Heart would be national brands with no regional requirement.


Some of the non metropolitan ILR stations had flea powered transmitters that barely covered the town or city the station was based in. The BBC LRs were mostly county wide
( even if they didn’t carry a county name, Bristol, Oxford, Newcastle etc)

That was evened out in the 80s when ILR staions were awared major power boosts and/or additional transmitters.

I agree though, the metropolitan ILRs (BRMB, Piccadilly, Clyde etc) were good well managed and resourced stations with high production values. They sounded as good as ( some would say ( myself included) superior to) BBC R1 and 2. So I agree, stations that served populations of at least 2-3 million.

That said, I don’t think we’d be any different place today, if ILR had been big city/regional from the outset. Look at ITV ?
JA
james-2001
Nobody thought Simon Mayo would leave Radio 2, but then the salary row came along, had Jo Whiley shoehorned with him and that tanked with the audience and he left for Bauer's Scala Radio, a new classical music digital station that launches on Monday.


Mark Kermode is also on Scala, makes me wonder if they might end up moving their film review show over there from Radio 5.
NB
NicB1971
BBC Local Radio in an evening is an oddity. One minute they scrap post-7pm local programming to introduce an England-wide programme then they scrap that an re-introduce local shows; stations in the Midlands joins forces late evening with Graham Torrington. Also, BBC Hereford and Worcester and Shropshire simulcast programmes, sometimes with BBC Radio Stoke. I would rather listen to any station other than the dire BBC WM (short for Whingers and Moaners). It is the worst station on the BBC network, their drivetime is predominantly sports drivel and then a sports phone-in after 6pm.

One other hate of mine is listening to Classic FM - it seems like after every song they have to say "This is Classic FM... from Global" or "This is Classic FM". I know it's [bleeping] Classic FM! And the stupid TOTH jingle! Zipper
JA
james-2001
Radio Nottingham is also dire around 90% of the time I've attempted to listen.

To be fair, I'm not personally a fan of BBC radio much in general anyway, Radio 1 and 2 are far too waffly for my liking for a start.
LL
London Lite Founding member
BBC Radio London is so niche that it even has a weekly dog hour. The nation's capital and this is what we get, it's no wonder LBC trounces this nonsense.
JA
james-2001
If the choice is between dog hour on Radio London and fag-ash Farage on LBC, I really do pity you lot!
IS
Inspector Sands
It has got to the odd situation that BBC Radio London is the only local station that London has.
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 27 February 2019 6:43am
IS
Inspector Sands
JCB posted:

I can see Scott Mills being a potential target. Seems a perfect fit for a national Heart breakfast show I think.

Although they already have a decent and established name for Heart Breakfast in London who will presumably be networked.
IS
Inspector Sands
BBC Local Radio in an evening is an oddity. One minute they scrap post-7pm local programming to introduce an England-wide programme then they scrap that an re-introduce local shows;

You say 'one minute' but it lasted 6 years which is a fairly long time in radio. Also of course both decisions were made by different regimes
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stations in the Midlands joins forces late evening with Graham Torrington. Also, BBC Hereford and Worcester and Shropshire simulcast programmes, sometimes with BBC Radio Stoke.

That's fairly normal at the weekends on BBC Local stations, and late nights are shared regionally by nearly every station and have been for decades. I remember when GLR as it then was doing shared programmes with Radio Kent and Oxford, wouldn't happen now
HC
Hatton Cross
It has got to the odd situation that BBC Radio London is the only local station that London has.

On FM..

LBC News 1152 is technically a local station with no networking and some London-centric output (even though the fader carrying the FM simulcast feed is open more than it is closed, and accounts for at least half the output)
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