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The excitement of start-ups and static (April 2016)

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Steve in Pudsey
Don't believe Yorkshire did, possibly just because Granada never did, although I don't know about ABC at the weekends.
MA
Markymark
Is there any relationship between which ITV companies played the anthem and which are descended from cinema companies? I understand it was standard practice to play the anthem at the end of cinema screenings.

Well Granada didn't..... whereas Westward and Southern I'm pretty sure did


Yes, Southern did, as did TVS. Westward did, TSW didn't (I don't think ?)
JA
james-2001
TV Ark have several national anthem closedowns from TSW, so they obviously did too. http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itvsouthwest/TSW_continuity.html
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A former member
Border never had it either, while Grampian did play it, but it didn't it seem have the queen, instead going for St Andrews cross.
IN
Interceptor
TV Ark have several national anthem closedowns from TSW, so they obviously did too. http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itvsouthwest/TSW_continuity.html

There's an early TSW closedown featuring just a menu of the next day's programmes with the full version of the ident theme (which is a rather strange arrangement!).
MA
Markymark
TV Ark have several national anthem closedowns from TSW, so they obviously did too. http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itvsouthwest/TSW_continuity.html

There's an early TSW closedown featuring just a menu of the next day's programmes with the full version of the ident theme (which is a rather strange arrangement!).


I lived in the region 82 to 85, I don't recall any closedowns with the NA, (not that I saw that many). My recollection was the TSW theme and following day's programme menu, but I do acknowledge the TV Ark site does indeed have NA closedowns from that era
NM
Neil Miles
TV Ark have several national anthem closedowns from TSW, so they obviously did too. http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itvsouthwest/TSW_continuity.html

There's an early TSW closedown featuring just a menu of the next day's programmes with the full version of the ident theme (which is a rather strange arrangement!).


A rather strange arrangement? This is a piece of majestically bonkers genius!



I must admit to an unhealthy obsession with That's Soul Write (even the name is ludicrous!) and if anyone could find me a full version of it, as broadcast, I would be in their eternal debt.

I know that there's the recorded version -



but while it's great in it's own way (the harp flourishes at the start are ace, as is the jazz-funk sax breakdown in the middle), it just doesn't have the same attack and verve as the broadcast version.

This has been a cry for help, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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A former member
You are right the Broadcast version of the TSW theme is 100% better, and its a shame its never come out.
TC
TonyCurrie
Composed by Wil Malone, BTW.
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A former member
Composed by Wil Malone, BTW.


You just managed to explain why what happened. I wonder why Ed did his own version for his LP.
TC
TonyCurrie
The LP was paid for by TSW, so I would assume they dictated the tracks that appeared on it. As well as all the Ed Welch compositions there was Wil's "That's Soul, Write" and Ron Goodwin's "Tin Miner's Ghost". Ed never made it to the recording session because of severe weather and he had to listen to the whole thing down a phone!!
Hatton Cross and Neil Miles gave kudos
RO
robertclark125
That video of ETP-1 on the previous page got me thinking. On Channel 4 and S4C, if there were horizontal lines above the IBA:CH4 or S4C lettering on ETP-1, that meant the card was being generated from the presentation suite in Charlotte Street, London, or Parc ty Glas, Lllanishen, Cardiff. If the lines were absent, it was being generated locally at the transmitter.

On that video, which was from ITV, we see the IBA lettering but no bars above or below it. I'm guessing that the absence of lines meant it came locally from the transmitter, but the presence of them, meant it came from the particular ITV company's presentation suite?

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