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JV
James Vertigan Founding member
The 12.10 slot changed to 15.30 in September 1993, with two 10 minute shows instead of one long one. Rainbow and Rosie and Jim were definitely 12.10 shows. Generally it was Rainbow Monday and Friday, with Rod Jane and Freddy on Tuesday, Allsorts on Wednesday and Puddle Lane on Thursday. At some point Playbox took over Mondays.


I don’t remember Puddle Lane or Playbox, but I do remember Rod Jane & Freddy, Allsorts and The Riddlers being in the 12:10 slot alongside Rainbow.
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There was a wonderful internet page up a long while ago that somebody wrote as a piece of satire on the setup of Rainbow which I've never been able to find again even in the Wayback Machine, I'm sure it was linked from the Rainbow fan sites which have all disappeared as well for some reason.


This one?

https://archive.is/20120729032548/http://www.btinternet.com/~acbarrett/history.htm

Also for a short period it was 11.10am but quickly moved back.
XI
Xilla
Think we said before Geoffrey found it hard to adapt to life after Rainbow and struggled to find more acting work, he was effectively typecast as the guardian or whatever the situation was in the Rainbow house of the bear, the hippo and the zip.

There was a wonderful internet page up a long while ago that somebody wrote as a piece of satire on the setup of Rainbow which I've never been able to find again even in the Wayback Machine, I'm sure it was linked from the Rainbow fan sites which have all disappeared as well for some reason.


This one?

https://worldofcrap.co.uk/2014/10/28/the-many-rooms-of-the-rainbow-house/amp/
SW
Steve Williams
The 12.10 slot changed to 15.30 in September 1993, with two 10 minute shows instead of one long one. Rainbow and Rosie and Jim were definitely 12.10 shows. Generally it was Rainbow Monday and Friday, with Rod Jane and Freddy on Tuesday, Allsorts on Wednesday and Puddle Lane on Thursday. At some point Playbox took over Mondays.

Home and Away followed at 12.30, but the Gulf War pushed that back to 13.20. IIRC the 12.10 slot was also taken up by news at that point - I remember mum taping Rod Jane and Freddy which we LOVED as kids, only for ITN to be on.

Rainbow was swiftly axed after Thames lost the franchise, new episodes were shown up to the end of 1991 I think, but through 1992 repeats were run before it came off entirely.


Yes, as mentioned the 12.10 slot lasted all the way up until 1993. When it began in 1972 the slot was 12.05-12.40, but in the mid-70s ran 12-12.30, with one ten minute show and one twenty minute show. That's how it stayed until 1987, but when schools programmes moved off ITV in September 1987 and they launched their first ever proper daytime schedule, the ten minute show at noon was dropped (but they were also showing them at 4pm and that continued) and the 12.10 show moved to 11.10am. This was pretty controversial (as much as these things can ever be) and loads of parents complained it was inconvenient (and meant kids coming home from school at lunch couldn't see it) so when This Morning began in 1988 they moved it back to 12.10, where it stayed until 1993*. As mentioned, Tots TV and Wizadora started in that slot in January 1993.

For the first few years, Rainbow would actually run five days a week, a couple of weeks at a time, with other shows in between, but by the end of the seventies, it had changed so the shows would run all year round on specific days. These days would be split up between the Big Four, with Thames shows on two days, and Granada, Yorkshire and Central one each. For a while Rainbow would be on both Thames' days, Tuesdays and Fridays, but in the mid-eighties was just on Friday while the Tuesday slot was home to Rod, Jane and Freddy and later the short-lived Treasure Box.

The shows you mentioned are almost correct but Mondays were Central's day, and they contributed Let's Pretend, Rosie and Jim and Playbox. As you say, Granada contributed Allsorts on Wednesdays, and Thursdays were Yorkshire with Get Up And Go, Puddle Lane and The Riddlers.

* Actually a bit later it became 12.05-12.25, because I remember the first slot for the lunchtime Home and Away on Granada was 12.25 (allowing for the regional news before the national news) because people in school got into the habit of going home to watch it and making it back in time for one o'clock.
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Blake Connolly Founding member
Some of my earliest memories are of watching Rainbow at lunchtimes, I know it was my favourite as a toddler. It's a cliche, but this really is a bit of my childhood going.

Also can't think of Geoffrey without thinking of his appearance on Fist of Fun on Radio 1 just after he was dropped from Rainbow. Comes across as a lovely guy and a great sport.

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BH
BillyH Founding member
I remember being disappointed one afternoon tuning into that slot and instead of a programme seeing an old man in a suit talking in Parliament! Probably Norman Lamont announcing the March 1993 budget?
SP
Spencer
Ah, the days of budget coverage replacing children's television for a day. Nothing was more disappointing when you got home from school. Kids these days, they don't know they're born! Wink
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PFML84
I remember being disappointed one afternoon tuning into that slot and instead of a programme seeing an old man in a suit talking in Parliament! Probably Norman Lamont announcing the March 1993 budget?

Before or after his encounter with Julian Clary I wonder? Wink
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Si-Co
For the first few years, Rainbow would actually run five days a week, a couple of weeks at a time, with other shows in between, but by the end of the seventies, it had changed so the shows would run all year round on specific days. These days would be split up between the Big Four, with Thames shows on two days, and Granada, Yorkshire and Central one each. For a while Rainbow would be on both Thames' days, Tuesdays and Fridays, but in the mid-eighties was just on Friday while the Tuesday slot was home to Rod, Jane and Freddy and later the short-lived Treasure Box.

The shows you mentioned are almost correct but Mondays were Central's day, and they contributed Let's Pretend, Rosie and Jim and Playbox. As you say, Granada contributed Allsorts on Wednesdays, and Thursdays were Yorkshire with Get Up And Go, Puddle Lane and The Riddlers.


You’re correct, Steve - I remember Rainbow and the other programmes being stripped Monday to Friday in the 70s, and Rainbow was on for two weeks with other shows just one week. Perhaps some episodes were repeats?

In the 80s a new episode of Rainbow would be shown on Fridays (and from 1983 this was repeated at 4pm during Children’s ITV). The Tuesday episode was a repeat, normally about two years old.

As for the days allocated to the different companies, this varied - Rainbow was Wednesday and Friday for a while, before changing to Tuesday and Friday in 1982. Central’s day was originally Tuesday (Pipkins and Let’s Pretend) - this changed to Mondays. Thursday I remembering Granada’s day (Hickory House, Daisy Daisy, Once Upon a Time) but this became Friday in the early 80s and subsequently Wednesday. I assume YTV’s programmes must have had a Monday before settling into Thursday by 1982. All quite interesting!
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member

There was a wonderful internet page up a long while ago that somebody wrote as a piece of satire on the setup of Rainbow which I've never been able to find again even in the Wayback Machine, I'm sure it was linked from the Rainbow fan sites which have all disappeared as well for some reason.


This one?
https://archive.is/20120729032548/http://www.btinternet.com/~acbarrett/history.htm




No it wasn't either of these, but thank you both anyway, I appreciate it. I haven't seen the worldofcrap post before so that was quite interesting. Thank you for that.

All I can recall is that the page I refer to was written by somebody called Jill and one of the segments was sending in Rod, Jane and Freddy to do a psychiatric assessment on Geoffrey, then turning up in their manager's office later with the line "we haven't done the report but we have written a lovely song about going to the zoo".

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