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LL
London Lite Founding member
BFM have launched yet another local channel. BFM DICI serves the southern French Alps and Alpes-de-Haute-Provence.

The channel replaced D!CI TV which was acquired by Altice last summer.

The sub-opts are branded BFM Alpes or BFM Provence.

Whilst here I guess London Live still are now a year without news?

How much of the schedule for these BFM channels is local and how much is simulcast from the national channels?


The local channels are 100% produced locally. When not live, they'll update the loop of news through the day and overnight.

Local reporters however do feature on BFMTV which has improved their local reporting outside the Paris Region.
LL
London Lite Founding member

If this will happen then I presume that the RTL channels in Belgium will no longer use the RTL moniker


That’d be a big change in Belgium if that happened. RTL in some form has always been in the name of the commercial channels in Wallonia/Brussels since RTL TVI launched as a channel dedicated to Belgium in 1987 (with RTL TV being available before that as a channel shared with Luxembourg and Lorraine in France which later became RTL9).

The advertising market in French-speaking Belgium has become more squeezed in recent years, with TF1 and now C8 being allowed to launch Belgian advertising opt-outs.


Plus M6 can be received in the country, although there isn't a Belgian opt. What I'll presume will happen is once RTL is sold, M6 will launch a Belgian opt.

Although the share is low in Belgium for the French based channels, there is a sizable minority who prefer to watch those channels instead of the RTBF and RTL offerings in Wallonia, this despite the Belgian channels getting first run of French commissioned shows to ensure viewers watch locally instead of via TF1, France 2 etc.
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RD
Roger Darthwell
If this will happen then I presume that the RTL channels in Belgium will no longer use the RTL moniker


That’d be a big change in Belgium if that happened. RTL in some form has always been in the name of the commercial channels in Wallonia/Brussels since RTL TVI launched as a channel dedicated to Belgium in 1987 (with RTL TV being available before that as a channel shared with Luxembourg and Lorraine in France which later became RTL9).

The advertising market in French-speaking Belgium has become more squeezed in recent years, with TF1 and now C8 being allowed to launch Belgian advertising opt-outs.


Plus M6 can be received in the country, although there isn't a Belgian opt. What I'll presume will happen is once RTL is sold, M6 will launch a Belgian opt.

Although the share is low in Belgium for the French based channels, there is a sizable minority who prefer to watch those channels instead of the RTBF and RTL offerings in Wallonia, this despite the Belgian channels getting first run of French commissioned shows to ensure viewers watch locally instead of via TF1, France 2 etc.

I never knew about this! I presume that the same happens in French speaking Switzerland
KU
Kunst
Switzerland AFAIK is more permissive, having had many Swiss versions of the French main channels for more time
LL
London Lite Founding member
Kunst posted:
Switzerland AFAIK is more permissive, having had many Swiss versions of the French main channels for more time


Swiss law in that respect has helped because Swiss providers are allowed to rebroadcast FTA streams from foreign countries as long as they can be received in the country, although there are Swiss versions of the TF1 and M6 portfolio and C8, same for the German channels which have Swiss commercials.
MR
mrwish
If this will happen then I presume that the RTL channels in Belgium will no longer use the RTL moniker


That’d be a big change in Belgium if that happened. RTL in some form has always been in the name of the commercial channels in Wallonia/Brussels since RTL TVI launched as a channel dedicated to Belgium in 1987 (with RTL TV being available before that as a channel shared with Luxembourg and Lorraine in France which later became RTL9).

The advertising market in French-speaking Belgium has become more squeezed in recent years, with TF1 and now C8 being allowed to launch Belgian advertising opt-outs.


Plus M6 can be received in the country, although there isn't a Belgian opt. What I'll presume will happen is once RTL is sold, M6 will launch a Belgian opt.

Although the share is low in Belgium for the French based channels, there is a sizable minority who prefer to watch those channels instead of the RTBF and RTL offerings in Wallonia, this despite the Belgian channels getting first run of French commissioned shows to ensure viewers watch locally instead of via TF1, France 2 etc.


That would make sense re renaming to M6. But M6 is actually not widely available in Belgium as it stands currently.

As RTL is (currently) part of the same group and has the rights for most of its programming, they block M6 and its sister channels from being carried on Belgian cable/IPTV, even though it’s an overspill FTA signal that would otherwise have historically been received at the border terrestrially, then shared between the télédistribution networks via microwave and carried (as happened with France 2, France 3 and also TF1 in the days before their Belgian advertising opt-out replaced the off-air feed). Ironically, this method of receiving at the border then sharing with the other cable networks is exactly how RTL-TVI and later on Club RTL started out, being broadcast from Luxembourg with the UHF feed picked up by a cable network in Southern Wallonia for distribution. I’m not sure of the Belgian legal technicalities but I think RTL’s blocking/lobbying of the cable networks, so they can’t/don’t do the same with M6, has been a little controversial.

M6 can be received terrestrially of course in areas bordering France, or via satellite, but the vast majority of Belgium gets TV via cable (Voo/Orange), or the newer IPTV services of (Proximus etc.). A lot of municipalities apparently have pretty restrictive planning rules on satellite dishes!
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LL
London Lite Founding member
I've finally been able to borrow a friend's Salto account and it's very good. The Android TV app has a nice layout and is easy to use.

There are a few more channels that I expected, it's not just the TF1, France Télévisions and M6 portfolio, there's also NRJ12 and Chérie 25 from NRJ, L'Equipe 21 and TV5MONDE.
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LL
London Lite Founding member
To add, LCI is in native HD rather than the upscaled SD used on MyCanal.
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QN
Quatorzine Neko
As this year's Figure Skating World Championship takes place in Sweden, France 3 strikes again:



RD
Roger Darthwell
Given that this wonderful forum will close very soon, I am taking this opportunity to ask the question that I didn't dare to ask it before, do you think that France 4 may be saved from closure? Given that France 4's closure was inspired by the closure of BBC Three a few years before, now that BBC Three is coming back as an actual TV channel, could this help to avoid the closure of France 4? When French media reported the news, some parallels to France 4 were made https://www.telerama.fr/ecrans/apres-le-web-la-bbc3-repasse-a-la-tele-6834377.php
LL
London Lite Founding member
Like the BBC, I suspect the linear channel will have to close for a period before France Télévisions realise that there is still some PSB worthiness in relaunching France 4.

As this may well be the final post I post in the French TV thread, I'd like to thank those who have posted in this thread who have shared the same niche interest in UK terms discussing French television presentation, especially those who live in France who have a broader understanding of how the French tv industry works.

I sincerely hope that you all come over to TVLF and continue to discuss rebrands of French channels and if ever Sophie Le Saint will ever do a full week at Franceinfo!
RD
Roger Darthwell
Like the BBC, I suspect the linear channel will have to close for a period before France Télévisions realise that there is still some PSB worthiness in relaunching France 4.

As this may well be the final post I post in the French TV thread, I'd like to thank those who have posted in this thread who have shared the same niche interest in UK terms discussing French television presentation, especially those who live in France who have a broader understanding of how the French tv industry works.

I sincerely hope that you all come over to TVLF and continue to discuss rebrands of French channels and if ever Sophie Le Saint will ever do a full week at Franceinfo!

I am already there mate! But the French TV thread on TV Live Forum still hasn't started mate, we need you there so that we can see if Sophie Le Saint will ever do a full week on France Info! Also to see who will end up buying the M6 Group!

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