« Topics
1234...21222324252627
sbahnhof 7207 posts since 29 Oct 2016
Outre-mer chat from the thread "FTA TV in the UK"

- https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/fta-tv-uk-lot-offer-43437/

Almost every 50Hz country (couple of South American exceptions - and of course China) went DVB-T/T2.
60Hz countries are mixed between ISDB-T, ATSC 8VSB (and now ATSC 3.0 OFDM in Korea and soon the US), with one or two DVB-T oddities.

Funny anomaly is that there is a 50Hz DVB-T operation on St Pierre and Miquelon just off the Canadian cost (Canada is ATSC 8VSB). It carries the main French services, but unlike the French mainland they aren't FTA to restrict reception in Canada. I believe they even have local news on FR3.


The mux on St Pierre and Miquelon has the following.

1ére St Pierre and Miquelon
France 2
France 3 (If there is local news, it'll be a repeat of 1ere's bulletin)
France 4
France 5
France O
Arte
France 24 Francais


I've always found it interesting how France Télévisions has established/maintained a full line up of PSB television channels in French territories. Something haven't seen the BBC do, to that extent.


I wouldn't be surprised if the Metropolitan France channels are time delayed, similar to how the UK PSB's are in the Falkland Islands.

France's broadcasting regulator, the CSA has a list of channels on each 'Outer-Mer' mux.

http://www.csa.fr/Television/Les-chaines-de-television/Les-chaines-hertziennes-terrestres


Remember that French overseas territories are considered to be a part of France, as opposed to the quasi-independent status of the UK's dependencies.



*

I can't get the enthusiasm for the new logos. For all that they're simple and 'clean', they're (for me only Embarassed) easy to mistake for a pop-up graphic on a show, instead of a DOG. Maybe because they're so asymmetrical and opaque.
whoiam989788 posts since 22 Dec 2007
BBC World
Both are under Patrick Drahi's Altice. They are going to rebrand all of their telcos (including SFR in France) to Altice, so I think it's all part of the concentration effort.
1
London Lite gave kudos
globaltraffic24404 posts since 23 Jun 2013
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Outre-mer chat from the thread "FTA TV in the UK"

- https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/fta-tv-uk-lot-offer-43437/

Almost every 50Hz country (couple of South American exceptions - and of course China) went DVB-T/T2.
60Hz countries are mixed between ISDB-T, ATSC 8VSB (and now ATSC 3.0 OFDM in Korea and soon the US), with one or two DVB-T oddities.

Funny anomaly is that there is a 50Hz DVB-T operation on St Pierre and Miquelon just off the Canadian cost (Canada is ATSC 8VSB). It carries the main French services, but unlike the French mainland they aren't FTA to restrict reception in Canada. I believe they even have local news on FR3.


The mux on St Pierre and Miquelon has the following.

1ére St Pierre and Miquelon
France 2
France 3 (If there is local news, it'll be a repeat of 1ere's bulletin)
France 4
France 5
France O
Arte
France 24 Francais


I've always found it interesting how France Télévisions has established/maintained a full line up of PSB television channels in French territories. Something haven't seen the BBC do, to that extent.


I wouldn't be surprised if the Metropolitan France channels are time delayed, similar to how the UK PSB's are in the Falkland Islands.

France's broadcasting regulator, the CSA has a list of channels on each 'Outer-Mer' mux.

http://www.csa.fr/Television/Les-chaines-de-television/Les-chaines-hertziennes-terrestres


Remember that French overseas territories are considered to be a part of France, as opposed to the quasi-independent status of the UK's dependencies.



*

I can't get the enthusiasm for the new logos. For all that they're simple and 'clean', they're (for me only Embarassed) easy to mistake for a pop-up graphic on a show, instead of a DOG. Maybe because they're so asymmetrical and opaque.



I'm a little confused by the France O structure. Could someone clarify? I was under the impression that French overseas territories did not get France 1,2,3, etc but instead got France O as their main channel, featuring a hybrid of the France Televisions shows and their local news. From closer inspection, it looks like the overseas territories instead get France 1 with an opt for their local television news.

UPDATE - I think I've worked it out. Is France 1 (Martinique, etc), just France O but localised? As there is no France 1 in Metropolitan France.
whoiam989788 posts since 22 Dec 2007
BBC World
If TF1 in Metropolitan France was not privatised in the 80s, it would become a part of France Télévisions and named France 1.

La Première stations in the territories were collectively known as RFO, and France Ô was originally launched as RFO Sat. They were rebranded years after the RFO came under the control of France TV.

Previously, RFO also had a channel named Tempo, which (I think) aired select programmes from the channels in Metropolitan France and was distributed accross the territories. Tempo was shutdown after the launch of DTT in the territories.
Orry Verducci1,572 posts since 1 Feb 2005
Anglia (West) Look East
I'm a little confused by the France O structure. Could someone clarify? I was under the impression that French overseas territories did not get France 1,2,3, etc but instead got France O as their main channel, featuring a hybrid of the France Televisions shows and their local news. From closer inspection, it looks like the overseas territories instead get France 1 with an opt for their local television news.

UPDATE - I think I've worked it out. Is France 1 (Martinique, etc), just France O but localised? As there is no France 1 in Metropolitan France.

Basically, mainland France has France 2 to 5 plus France Ô (there isn't a France 1).


Each overseas territory has a local channel run by France Télévisions called La Première, using the '1' logo as their branding. The channel basically carries local news and locally produced programming for each territory, as well as I think programming produced by sister 1ère channels in other territories.

In mainland France they broadcast France Ô as an outlet for programming from the 1ère channels from all the territories, essentially as a way of connecting the overseas territories to the mainland.

In the past 1ère was part of the France 3 regional network, I think with additional opt outs to carry programmes from the other mainland channels. However since the digital switchover I believe they all now receive France 2-5 from the mainland, meaning it is no longer neccessary for 1ère to carry programming from the mainland channels.
Last edited by Orry Verducci on 21 March 2018 4:28pm
3
NYTV, WW Update and globaltraffic24 gave kudos
gottago2,671 posts since 26 Aug 2004
London London
I'm a little confused by the France O structure. Could someone clarify? I was under the impression that French overseas territories did not get France 1,2,3, etc but instead got France O as their main channel, featuring a hybrid of the France Televisions shows and their local news. From closer inspection, it looks like the overseas territories instead get France 1 with an opt for their local television news.

UPDATE - I think I've worked it out. Is France 1 (Martinique, etc), just France O but localised? As there is no France 1 in Metropolitan France.

Basically, mainland France has France 2 to 5 plus France Ô (there isn't a France 1).


Each overseas territory has a local channel run by France Télévisions called La Première, using the '1' logo as their branding. The channel basically carries local news and locally produced programming for each territory, as well as I think programming produced by sister 1ère channels in other territories.

In mainland France they broadcast France Ô as an outlet for programming from the 1ère channels from all the territories, essentially as a way of connecting the overseas territories to the mainland.

In the past 1ère was part of the France 3 regional network, I think with additional opt outs to carry programmes from the other mainland channels. However since the digital switchover I believe they all now receive France 2-5 from the mainland, meaning it is no longer neccessary for 1ère to carry programming from the mainland channels.

Any idea what they air during the France 3 regional slots in those territories? Presumably just the Paris feed?
noggin13,411 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I'm a little confused by the France O structure. Could someone clarify? I was under the impression that French overseas territories did not get France 1,2,3, etc but instead got France O as their main channel, featuring a hybrid of the France Televisions shows and their local news. From closer inspection, it looks like the overseas territories instead get France 1 with an opt for their local television news.

UPDATE - I think I've worked it out. Is France 1 (Martinique, etc), just France O but localised? As there is no France 1 in Metropolitan France.

Basically, mainland France has France 2 to 5 plus France Ô (there isn't a France 1).


Each overseas territory has a local channel run by France Télévisions called La Première, using the '1' logo as their branding. The channel basically carries local news and locally produced programming for each territory, as well as I think programming produced by sister 1ère channels in other territories.

In mainland France they broadcast France Ô as an outlet for programming from the 1ère channels from all the territories, essentially as a way of connecting the overseas territories to the mainland.

In the past 1ère was part of the France 3 regional network, I think with additional opt outs to carry programmes from the other mainland channels. However since the digital switchover I believe they all now receive France 2-5 from the mainland, meaning it is no longer neccessary for 1ère to carry programming from the mainland channels.

Any idea what they air during the France 3 regional slots in those territories? Presumably just the Paris feed?


I thought that St Pierre et Miquelon had their own France 3 regional news - presumably shared with the first channel - but I may be wrong.
London Lite9,068 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London

Any idea what they air during the France 3 regional slots in those territories? Presumably just the Paris feed?


If it's anything like the online feed used by Molotov in France and Zattoo in Switzerland, they show a loop of regional news from across the country with a voiceover.
Orry Verducci1,572 posts since 1 Feb 2005
Anglia (West) Look East
Any idea what they air during the France 3 regional slots in those territories? Presumably just the Paris feed?


I thought that St Pierre et Miquelon had their own France 3 regional news - presumably shared with the first channel - but I may be wrong.

Possibly. I've never seen the output from the overseas territories so I assumed they used the national feed of France 3, as seen on satellite in the mainland and on the online services. Given that they're producing local programming for 1ère however, it would make sense for them to produce local news for the France 3 regional slots as well.
Hatton Cross2,829 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Yes. Widespread national public service strikes.
TV technicians out on the cobbles, but not it appears, journalists.
In a way I like Tele Matin during strikes from the cupboard. The thumping around as one contributer to the next enters the 'studio' is quite fun.

I like how France 2 changed the backdrop of it to the previous 'dental surgery chic' of the previous clinical ice white look, and then moved into the carvanous news studio and now the cupboard looks nothing like the usual studio.

Could do a bit more with the acoustics though. NHK World's studio is like the cupboard, effectively a studio at the end of the English service newsroom, and doesn't suffer from the same 'dull' audio.
Last edited by Hatton Cross on 22 March 2018 4:06pm
Another Hatton Cross Comment
Parts of this post have been edited but does not affect the outcome. Portions Recorded. All Rights Reserved. (c) MMXVIII
1
London Lite gave kudos