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cwathen3,383 posts since 27 Dec 2001
I'd like to see Sky One, UK Gold, MTV, Granada Plus, E4 and Paramount but it won't happen.

I don't think anything more than dross will appear for quite some time.
Lee1,510 posts since 16 Sep 2003
I heard that they couldnt have too many channels on freeview because their technology/systems/whatever couldn't handle it, and that was the reason for all the blocking out and distortion of the picture when it was ITV Digital. I could be wrong.

I dont think much of Freeview, been there got the t-shirt when it was ITVD, it was all blocky, choppy, and we ended up going on ordinary TV to watch a programme. Heh, saying that, now we're on Sky, things don't seem much different. We can hardly ever get ITV1.

Freeview: Stick Sky One Mix and a Sky Movie channel on there. And maybe the Sci-Fi channel, and Discovery. Oh and Living!! Or they could just create a new channel dedicated to teasing people into buying Sky Digital! I dont think Freeview will last.
A former member
Well things are looking up, slightly.

There's Freesport coming soon - alright, so it's going to be showing minority sports, but who knows - once it's established itself, and Freeview numbers are higher, it might invest in some more popular sports. Perhaps it will sign a deal with ITV and show those extra sports that always end up on the ITV News Channel. It's certainly a possibility, although way in the future.

Then there is 'More4' launching next year. A potentially strong channel from one of our terrestrial channels. With the best bits of Channel 4, combined with special bits of E4 and FilmFour from time to time, this looks like it could become quite a popular channel.

Not forgetting the 'big players' investing in Freeview - flextech have got some space (in the form of FTN / UK Bright Ideas) and when the number of Freeview homes is high enough, we might see some better programming on these channels (and hopefully the elimination of UK Bright Ideas! IMO, the best bits of UK BI should become part of FTN's daytime schedule). Another big player is Disney - they hope to launch a channel too. Perhaps naff at first, but as the viewers increase, the content will (hopefully) improve. Also, Sky Travel is likely to become a new Sky entertainment channel in the near future.

There's still the notable lack of TCM or another movie channel, but that may still be to come.

Also, let's be thankful for what we already have - The HITS has evolved and EMAP are obviously listening to viewer feedback. TMF has become rubbish, but hopefully will improve in time. There are also radio stations, interactive services and rolling news from a variety of providers.

I'm happy with Freeview at the moment.
Aston1,152 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Ministry of Design posted:
I dont think Freeview will last.


B*ll*cks!!!

Why not - it's doing brilliantly!

There needs to be a non-subscription alternative to Satellite/Cable and Freeview fills the gap nicely...
A former member
what sports are going to be on the new setanta channel Confused:
BBC TV Centre3,110 posts since 4 Jan 2003
RTS posted:
Surely there's no harm in having additional channels giving viewers extra choice.

There probably will be. DTT has a limited capacity and there is a trade off between having some channels at decent quality and loads of channels at more decreased quality.

Adding more channels will probably make the others even worse - in terms of picture and sound with the MPEG2 compression becoming more apparent (such as 'slurry' sound and a more pixellated picture when viewing fast moving images or some that have extremes of darkness and light like those darkened pop concert halls or fireworks at night).

As far as I am aware there are no real problems, but the compression is apparent at times on some of the radio channels (such as The Hits Radio and Smash Hits) and TV channels (such as the ITV News Channel and The Hits).

I'd rather have few channels with a decent quality picture and sound rather than loads of channels which are not of the best quality (in terms of programming and picture and sound quality).
This Is Granada1,690 posts since 4 Jan 2003
chrisb posted:

There's still the notable lack of TCM or another movie channel, but that may still be to come.


Yes, But how many FREE movie channels are they on Sky?? 1, But I think TCM is part of the family pack. Remember Freeview has less space than other TV options so can only have a small number of channels out of different ranges, e.g. DSAT has loads of Entertainment, Freeview has a few. DSAT has loads of News, Freeview has a Few. So if DSAT only has 1 'sort of free' movie channel, then Freeview having none sounds about right.

Anyway, Dont BBC 1/2/3 ITV1/2 Channel 4,Five show enough films to keep you going?
Lee1,510 posts since 16 Sep 2003
When I had FV and it all changed over to ITVD, the yellow/green/purple menu's and stuff still said onDigital all over them, have they been changed yet? Can they change it?
Londoner7,232 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Ministry of Design posted:
the yellow/green/purple menu's and stuff still said onDigital all over them, have they been changed yet? Can they change it?


No - because they are part of the box's software, rather than anything being broadcast by a particular operator.
BBC TV Centre3,110 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Ministry of Design posted:
When I had FV and it all changed over to ITVD, the yellow/green/purple menu's and stuff still said onDigital all over them, have they been changed yet? Can they change it?

No they can't be changed as they are embedded into the software that runs the boxes, and they probably will not be changed for the forseeable future or even at all because when ITV Digital went down the pan, so did all the software associated with the boxes and development of it .

Nobody is willing to provide support for these boxes as they probably can't afford it/or want to pay to be able to develop it.