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It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
Is this on Freeview HD only? Tried retuning my SD box but Freesports didn't pop up.
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
MA
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
Is this on Freeview HD only? Tried retuning my SD box but Freesports didn't pop up.
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
NG
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
Yep - though to be fair it's worse than some countries where you needed to know which flavour of SD platform you needed for MPEG2 and H264 - as places like Sweden have had three (actually 4 if you include tests) levels of broadcast, not two.
1. SD MPEG2 on DVB-T only.
2. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T only. (With HD H264 on DVB-T experimentally)
3. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T, SD H264 + HD H264 on DVB-T2.
(AIUI Sweden will soon be SD MPEG2 just for one mux carrying SVT's SD channels, with all other muxes DVB-T2 carrying either SD or HD content)
This meant you had to read the small print on your TV (if you use a CAM) or STB to ensure compatibility - as they don't have such simple 'Freeview' or 'Freeview HD' branding - all three were branded 'Boxer'...
Maybe Freeview HD should have been called 'Freeview Generation 2' or something - but the main driving force for people to buy it was to get HD, so I'd argue it was a better branding decision...
noggin
Founding member
Is this on Freeview HD only? Tried retuning my SD box but Freesports didn't pop up.
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
Yep - though to be fair it's worse than some countries where you needed to know which flavour of SD platform you needed for MPEG2 and H264 - as places like Sweden have had three (actually 4 if you include tests) levels of broadcast, not two.
1. SD MPEG2 on DVB-T only.
2. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T only. (With HD H264 on DVB-T experimentally)
3. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T, SD H264 + HD H264 on DVB-T2.
(AIUI Sweden will soon be SD MPEG2 just for one mux carrying SVT's SD channels, with all other muxes DVB-T2 carrying either SD or HD content)
This meant you had to read the small print on your TV (if you use a CAM) or STB to ensure compatibility - as they don't have such simple 'Freeview' or 'Freeview HD' branding - all three were branded 'Boxer'...
Maybe Freeview HD should have been called 'Freeview Generation 2' or something - but the main driving force for people to buy it was to get HD, so I'd argue it was a better branding decision...
MA
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
Yep - though to be fair it's worse than some countries where you needed to know which flavour of SD platform you needed for MPEG2 and H264 - as places like Sweden have had three (actually 4 if you include tests) levels of broadcast, not two.
1. SD MPEG2 on DVB-T only.
2. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T only. (With HD H264 on DVB-T experimentally)
3. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T, SD H264 + HD H264 on DVB-T2.
(AIUI Sweden will soon be SD MPEG2 just for one mux carrying SVT's SD channels, with all other muxes DVB-T2 carrying either SD or HD content)
This meant you had to read the small print on your TV (if you use a CAM) or STB to ensure compatibility - as they don't have such simple 'Freeview' or 'Freeview HD' branding - all three were branded 'Boxer'...
Maybe Freeview HD should have been called 'Freeview Generation 2' or something - but the main driving force for people to buy it was to get HD, so I'd argue it was a better branding decision...
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
It’s on COM8 - yep, Freeview HD only.
How have we ended up in this pickle in the UK, where DVB-T2 muxes are referred to as 'HD', despite
carrying some SD services ?
Yep - though to be fair it's worse than some countries where you needed to know which flavour of SD platform you needed for MPEG2 and H264 - as places like Sweden have had three (actually 4 if you include tests) levels of broadcast, not two.
1. SD MPEG2 on DVB-T only.
2. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T only. (With HD H264 on DVB-T experimentally)
3. SD MPEG2 + SD H264 on DVB-T, SD H264 + HD H264 on DVB-T2.
(AIUI Sweden will soon be SD MPEG2 just for one mux carrying SVT's SD channels, with all other muxes DVB-T2 carrying either SD or HD content)
This meant you had to read the small print on your TV (if you use a CAM) or STB to ensure compatibility - as they don't have such simple 'Freeview' or 'Freeview HD' branding - all three were branded 'Boxer'...
Maybe Freeview HD should have been called 'Freeview Generation 2' or something - but the main driving force for people to buy it was to get HD, so I'd argue it was a better branding decision...
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
UK
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
VM
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
NG
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
noggin
Founding member
Freeview+ might have been a better term. There's less confusion regarding DAB+, over vanilla DAB in the radio world
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
VM
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
Hadn't Freeview+ already been used for PVRs that met the specifications laid down by Freeview?
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
NG
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
But at that point anyone marketing DVB-T2 receivers as anything other than 'Freeview HD' would have been a fool wouldn't they?
noggin
Founding member
Though it was originally called Freeview Playback and could have continued to be called that.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
But at that point anyone marketing DVB-T2 receivers as anything other than 'Freeview HD' would have been a fool wouldn't they?
VM
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
But at that point anyone marketing DVB-T2 receivers as anything other than 'Freeview HD' would have been a fool wouldn't they?
Possibly in the short-term, but not in the long-term IMO.
I think "+" had become tied to Sky+ in TV terms - and people 'got' the link. I'm not sure many people are aware of DAB+ as a thing...
Yes, but the point is that it wasn't always called Freeview+ and that brand could have been used for the DVB-T2 service if they'd stuck it out a while longer.
But at that point anyone marketing DVB-T2 receivers as anything other than 'Freeview HD' would have been a fool wouldn't they?
Possibly in the short-term, but not in the long-term IMO.