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RK
Rkolsen


Ikegami totally lost their way in the move to HD... They seem to have pretty much disappeared in Europe in camera terms... The Alexa-live hybrid camera was a nice idea - but Sony have effectively killed it with the F55 Live it seems.


Many stations in the US seemed to have installed the small Ikegami box cameras similar to Sony's HDC-P1. The cameras are cheap, they don't require a base station, expensive triax runs and produce good quality pictures. Stations that want quality still go for the Sony HDC series or now Grass Valley's LDX-86 (which is in place now at WNBC).
NG
noggin Founding member


Ikegami totally lost their way in the move to HD... They seem to have pretty much disappeared in Europe in camera terms... The Alexa-live hybrid camera was a nice idea - but Sony have effectively killed it with the F55 Live it seems.


Many stations in the US seemed to have installed the small Ikegami box cameras similar to Sony's HDC-P1. The cameras are cheap, they don't require a base station, expensive triax runs and produce good quality pictures. Stations that want quality still go for the Sony HDC series or now Grass Valley's LDX-86 (which is in place now at WNBC).


P1s (and similar) are quite common in Europe in studios that have fully automated camera mountings, and thus don't need all the additional facilities and functionality that a regular studio/OB camera would have (like talkback, reverse vision and prompt feeds down the camera cable, flexible viewfinders, nice ergonomics for handheld use etc.) Given that they are effectively an HDC-2500/1500/HSC-300 quality camera in picture terms (albeit without SMPTE/Triax connectivity) they are a good fit. They are also widely used in locations where their size makes them less obtrusive (such as 'effects' shots on state occasions)

That said - you can only route the HD-SDI outputs from these cameras over relatively short runs, so you normally have to convert to fibre for many deployments (though you can use cheap fibre rather than SMPTE obviously)

The other obvious area they are used is Steadicam (where you usually use an RF back and external VF integrated into the harness) - where they first appeared in 3D rigs, but are now using in 2D. Sony also have a UHD equivalent based on the HDC-4300.

I have seen some cheapskate broadcasters try and use them manually. The results are usually not great for operators.

Ikegami make them - but as I said elsewhere, Ikegami are kind of dead in Europe in camera terms these days. They are now in the same death-zone as Panasonic and Hitachi in camera terms. You only ever see Sony or GrassValley (aka Philips) in broadcast use, even at the lower end.

This is partially because big broadcasters will do procurement deals to allow them to get larger discounts on a single model of camera across their entire estate. (The BBC did this with the Sony HSC 300 for Broadcasting House, and I believe have installed HSC-300s in some English regions, which are currently still SD, to replace ageing first gen 16:9 SD cameras). You also save significantly on spares and service if you have a single model deployed.

I know that operators massively prefer Sony over GrassValley in ergonomics terms, and that many vision operators, and particularly vision supervisors, prefer the Sony camera control system. (GVGs had a little too much lag at one point)

Most new trucks in the UK appear to be being built around HDC-4300 or LDX-86N UHD cameras (with IP beginning to be deployed in anger in new trucks such as Arena's OB X, Y and Z to avoid quadlink HD-SDI) However studios are still basically HD (though I think Timeline may have a UHD studio in their BT Sport operation now - where previously they would have used a UHD OB truck parked outside)
Last edited by noggin on 26 November 2016 10:59am - 3 times in total
KE
kernow
There was a report on tonight's ITV News London, including the history of the studios, to mark Fountain Studios' final broadcast this weekend with the X Factor semi-final.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/2016-12-02/farewell-to-the-home-of-x-factor-studio-to-be-demolished-after-semi-finals/
DE
deejay
Pity the video at the bottom of that page is filmed in VertiVision.
BA
bilky asko
I can't imagine any of the CRTs not now being in landfill !


I hope not! People should be more careful with their hazardous WEEE.
JO
Josh
I was going to say: what will they do for the rest of the series - but, then realised next week is coming from Wembley. Laughing
GO
gottago
There was a mention in the final of BGT about it being the last to be filmed at the studios so I hope they give Fountain a final tribute tonight.
WH
Whataday Founding member
There were several tributes paid tonight by Dermot and Simon tonight, and the act that left also thanked the team at Fountain. Simon said it was unbelievable that they were going to be demolishing it.

Unusually the finalists were shown leaving the studios with a crane shot of the exterior. Dermot signed off with "Thank you Fountain".

I wonder if they'll find Sharon's old face and Kate Thornton when they clear it out.
ME
mediaman2007
There were several tributes paid tonight by Dermot and Simon tonight, and the act that left also thanked the team at Fountain. Simon said it was unbelievable that they were going to be demolishing it.

Unusually the finalists were shown leaving the studios with a crane shot of the exterior. Dermot signed off with "Thank you Fountain".

I wonder if they'll find Sharon's old face and Kate Thornton when they clear it out.


Laughing

When in the show did Simon say that? Must have missed it.

They've been doing the walk out to the battle buses since the 2014 series - you've clearly been like many and not been watching the past few years Wink
WH
Whataday Founding member
Metro:

Quote:
Simon Cowell has paid tribute to Fountain Studios, after it was announced that the home of The X Factor will close for the final time after tonight’s semi final.

The studio, which has seen the rise of stars such as Olly Murs and One Direction, will be demolished and transformed into luxury homes after the cameras stop rolling tonight.

But during the show, Simon stopped for a moment to reflect on the sad news. ‘Thank you to Fountain Studios. This is where we made our first show’, he said. ‘They’re gonna knock this place down I can’t believe it, but that’s life I guess.Thank you so much we’re gonna miss you.’

His sentiment was reflected by Dermot O’Leary on Instagram:

"The last ever live day at Fountain Studios today. It's been our home for 13 years. And it's where I taped my first pilot show. Just a tiny piece of concrete in north west London. But memories are history, laundry and property. Thanks to all the crew and staff for making it spit and crackle."

The TV studio, which is located in Wembley, has also hosted the likes of Britain’s Got Talent and The Cube, but became ingrained in sitcom folklore as the place where the Friends London episode was filmed – so it’s the actual venue where Ross accidentally said Rachel’s name at the altar.

Thames TV managing director Richard Holloway has also spoken about his disappointment at the decision to close the studio.
‘It’s a sad day because it’s a TV studio which is closing down and will not be replaced. Purpose built TV studios are difficult to find.’

ITV are yet to reveal an alternate venue for the show when it returns next year.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/04/simon-cowell-confirms-that-the-home-of-the-x-factor-is-getting-demolished-after-tonights-semi-final-6301092/#ixzz4RuGKWSpR
ME
mediaman2007
Listening to that Richard Holloway interview it seems almost confirmed that the venue mentione on here in Acton will be the new home of X Factor.
BR
Brekkie
Was it used for the first night of ITV?

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