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Five becomes Channel 5 on 14th Feb (July 2010)

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JO
Jonny
Is it a cunning money saving ploy from Des to enable 5star to use the same package as C5 with an asterix superimposed over the top? Watch out for an American flag overlay...
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WillPS
Eugh I really hope not. There's nothing wrong with the present idents, just replace the "FIVE" word with the new 5 in a circle.
BR
Brekkie
I take it both "new" and "Star" are Desmond publications, now sponsoring various crap on Fiver. Ridiculous really he appears to have been able to take over a terrestrial TV channel with very little questioning in comparison to News Internationals planned take over of Sky.
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andrew89
Hey folks;

It was the last Live From Studio Five on Friday Sad (4th February) I don't suppose anyone hear has recorded it & uploaded it somewhere like Youtube? My name was mentioned at the end & would love to see it again (I would probably watch it a hundred times lol) It really made my year Embarassed Gonna miss the show, hopefully all the Studio 5 team are kept on for OK!TV & Kate Walsh gets something else a.s.a.p

Also, something I've been wondering for a while now is that why didn't Richard Desmond face the media backlash that Rupert Murdoch has in his attempt to buy-out Sky News?
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nwtv2003
Also, something I've been wondering for a while now is that why didn't Richard Desmond face the media backlash that Rupert Murdoch has in his attempt to buy-out Sky News?


Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp owns and dominates Newspapers and sales in several countries all over the world, in addition to this it has several TV platforms, all of which are strong and have a significant share of the audience.

Richard Desmond owns Daily Express, Daily Star, some porn magazines, several porn channels and the lowest watched terrestrial TV channel in the UK.

Do the maths.
IS
Inspector Sands
Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp owns and dominates Newspapers and sales in several countries all over the world, in addition to this it has several TV platforms, all of which are strong and have a significant share of the audience.

Richard Desmond owns Daily Express, Daily Star, some porn magazines, several porn channels and the lowest watched terrestrial TV channel in the UK.

Do the maths.

Yes it's all down to media plurality and market share, a combined BSkyB/News International would control a large chunk of the media in this country. Just in terms of news output, it would include several popular and influential papers, 1 out of the 2 UK 24 hour news channels and almost all the commercial radio news output.
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WillPS
Do we know what's going to happen regarding Sky News' contract with Channel 5? I'm guessing OK!TV wont be made by them?

Is there any chance that Desmond might attempt to make his own rolling news channel?
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Inspector Sands
Do we know what's going to happen regarding Sky News' contract with Channel 5?

It seems that the other companies they got bids for have undercut Sky. However to get out of Sky's contract early would be expensive. C5 and Sky are back in negotiations:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/04/channel-5-sky-news-richard-desmond

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I'm guessing OK!TV wont be made by them?

Yes it will be
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Is there any chance that Desmond might attempt to make his own rolling news channel?

Judging by the culture of 'journalism' in his papers a Richard Desmond news channel is an awful prospect! It's extremely unlikely I'd have thought, for a start they're very expensive to set up and run and it's very difficult to make money out of them.

However there was talk about him wanting to turn 5 into a UK version of E! so a 24 hour entertainment news channel could well be a possibility
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WillPS
Cheers for the info!

I can see him being (understandably) extremely frustrated with OK!TV being produced by Sky!!

I'd love it for ITN to return along with a refresh on the 1997 package, but since the reason Sky News got the gig in the first place was because they undercut ITN, it's probably unlikely that they're the cheapest, leave alone the "entertainment" feel Desmond wants.
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all new Phil
Why the presumption that Desmond wants the channel to go down the trashy route? If anything I'd say the opposite - he wants it to take on the other terrestrial channels and make the channel more mainstream than it already is.

I think it will be really interesting to see what they come up with from next Monday onwards.
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Stuart
Judging by the culture of 'journalism' in his papers a Richard Desmond news channel is an awful prospect! It's extremely unlikely I'd have thought, for a start they're very expensive to set up and run and it's very difficult to make money out of them.

He already has the structure in place to gather news (via Express Newspapers), so it's a matter of converting that process into a broadcast version. That's probably not as complex, or expensive, as starting from scratch.

However, it may be cheaper to let the bidders such as ITN and Sky fight it out for the contract. Is there anything to stop the BBC bidding to provide their news? Surely it would be no different than the arrangement they have with S4C?
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Inspector Sands
He already has the structure in place to gather news (via Express Newspapers), so it's a matter of converting that process into a broadcast version. That's probably not as complex, or expensive, as starting from scratch.

His newspaper operation has been progressively cut and asset stripped since he took over, there's no way it could be the basis for a TV news channel without major investment. If you've seen The Express in the past few years you'll know how bad things have got. This is the paper that splashed Princess Diana on their front page every Monday for months because 'nothing happens on a Sunday' Rolling Eyes

And of course having a news operation for a newspaper is very different to that for 24 hour broadcast news. I don't think the Express's website is constantly updated in the way that that of the Times, Guardian or the Mail are so it would have to be ramped up quite substantially. Even though there might be some overlap in terms of newsgathering, the actual production of the programme is something that couldn't be just undertaken by print journalists

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However, it may be cheaper to let the bidders such as ITN and Sky fight it out for the contract. Is there anything to stop the BBC bidding to provide their news? Surely it would be no different than the arrangement they have with S4C?

I don't think they would but there's nothing to stop them, except for Desmond's anti-BBC stance and the potential political fallout. Also I can't imagine that BBC News would be willing to tarnish their reputation

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