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Five becomes Channel 5 on 14th Feb (July 2010)

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DA
David
The name 'Channel Five' has no history for the general public before 1996, when they first saw media articles about it and the need to retune their VHS recorders.

Any attempt to claim that the name has a history before that time is meaningless. The channel had been discussed and then put on a back-burner until 1990. What was eventually created for the fifth channel had little relation to what was discussed in the 1980s.


Hmm. Changing your point now that it has been proven wrong? You didn't mentioned the 'general public' in your original post.
JO
Joe
Channel 5 has basically been refered to as such since the mid eighties.


No-one mentioned the general public Stuart.
ST
Stuart
David posted:
Hmm. Changing your point now that it has been proven wrong? You didn't mentioned the 'general public' in your original post.

Don't be such a child, David.

You know exactly what I was saying and you haven't produced anything to disprove that opinion.

If you want to argue that someone, somewhere, uttered the words 'Channel Five' in 1980, then so be it!

It would have had no relation to the service which launched in 1997, and was certainly not discussed by people until shortly before then.
ST
Stuart
Channel 5 has basically been refered to as such since the mid eighties.

No-one mentioned the general public Stuart.

Who was referring to it as 'Channel Five' then? The fairies at the bottom of the garden, or nobody in general?

That's the point I was making! Rolling Eyes
KE
kernow
The general public were not disucssing 'Channel Five' in the mid-1980s
The name 'Channel Five' has no history for the general public before 1996, when they first saw media articles about it and the need to retune their VHS recorders.

Any attempt to claim that the name has a history before that time is meaningless.

That's not entirely true. Although it was a completely separate company, the name "Channel 5" was a consumer brand from the mid-1980s until the early 1990s, in the form of Channel 5 Video.
JO
Joe
Channel 5 has basically been refered to as such since the mid eighties.

No-one mentioned the general public Stuart.

Who was referring to it as 'Channel Five' then? The fairies at the bottom of the garden, or nobody in general?

That's the point I was making! Rolling Eyes


But there have now been several posts confirming that despite not being a widely-known term, 'Channel 5' was used by many in the industry and in Parliament.
PE
Pete Founding member
But there have now been several posts confirming that despite not being a widely-known term, 'Channel 5' was used by many in the industry and in Parliament.


Plymouth has decided, therefore it is true. Please keep up.
IS
Inspector Sands
Yes the name 'Channel 5' has a long history, any speculation about the next new channel after Channel 4 launched understandably referred to it as 'Channel 5' . The bid for the license in 1992 was for 'Channel 5' and the only bid was from 'Channel 5 Holdings' ( http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/itc/itc_publications/itc_notes/view_note80.html ). Before the channel we know today came about it was the obvious thing to refer to any new TV service as after the precedent of the name C4. There was, as mentioned above, the video company 'Channel 5' too

'Five' has almost universally been referred to as 'Channel 5' ever since it launched even though it's never been known as that on air. I can't remember the last time I heard it referred to by any third party as 'Five', certainly all the recent coverage of the takeover has referred to it as 'Channel 5'
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 1 August 2010 2:45am
IS
Inspector Sands
No more than people readily discuss programmes on 'Channel 6' these days, no! Shocked

There were certainly references to a channel 6, I remember newspaper stories many years ago about one getting the go ahead, which of course were nonsense and have of course been superseded by digital TV.

Certainly no-one refers to a a 'Channel 6' now as the vast majority of the population have gone way beyond 6 channels even on terrestrial
LI
littlesmegger
And for that matter, the fourth channel didn't actually need to be called 4 or Channel 4.

Until the late 1970s it was referred to as ITV2, or the 'Fourth Channel'. TV sets up until 1980 were still being made with the label ITV2/IBA2 next to the fourth button.


Completely forgot about that, in fact my Grandad had a telly that said it right up into the late ninties. Got rid of it when BBC Two needed tuning in every time on the front of the telly. Can't be wasting precious snooker time!! Laughing
WH
Whataday Founding member
David posted:
Channel 5 has basically been refered to as such since the mid eighties.

That's odd. The channel didn't launch until 1997. Confused

And no one mentioned it before it launched?

No more than people readily discuss programmes on 'Channel 6' these days, no! Shocked


When Channel 4 was launched it was known that there was a certain amount of capacity for a fifth broadcaster, and there was occasional debate throughout the 80's over what to do with it. There were discussions over the retuning process which would need to occur, and the possibilities of it becoming a network of local 'city stations', and even a third BBC channel.

At all times during these discussions, it was refered to as CHANNEL 5. Admittedly it got more predominant throughout the 90's but it started in the 80's. Which is what I was saying. It wasn't a brand created by what became Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd. The channel itself was refered to as Channel 5 way before that company ever came into existance. Ok?
WH
Whataday Founding member
Certainly no-one refers to a a 'Channel 6' now as the vast majority of the population have gone way beyond 6 channels even on terrestrial


In the industry, I've heard some refer to the most popular non-analogue channels as being in a battle to be Channel 6, ie the 6th most watched channel, although admittedly this is rare.

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