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The best option for the new space would be to use it for a BBC One HD simulcast. Once it has been rolled out to all platforms, BBC One content can be removed from BBC HD, which will still find it easy to fill a schedule made up of content from all other channels (as well as reruns of BBC One programmes). I don't think there will be a need for approval from the BBC Trust either, as it won't be a new service.

There has been some speculation about it already - http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2009/06/02/bbc-one-not-yet-at-hd-tipping-point/ , but the latest news about Five HD should put more pressure on the BBC.

The mixed-genre HD channels were the obvious option when HDTV was a new technology, but as more HD content and capacity becomes available they make less sence. They are confusing to viewers and many broadcasters are moving away from them. The bandwidth waste of broadcasting upscaled content would be a very temporary matter, as all production is slowly going HD. As BBC One broadcasts almost solely new material, it could be 70-90 percent HD in a few years.


The rest of Europe that have already gone HD OTA have gone for HD DVB-T using H264. Therefore there are DVB-T H264 HD sets knocking around already - it's what Sweden, Norway, France, Ireland etc. are using for HD (and in Norway and Ireland's case SD, and in France SD Pay-TV)

There have been a number of HD H264 DVB-T sets on sale in Britain for a little while now - that will work fine in HD elsewhere in Europe - but not in the UK where we're the first to use T2.


Actually, there are other countries that intend to launch DVB-T2 services this year. SVT in Sweden recently suspended their HD broadcasts with DVB-T, and are intending to take part in a greater launch later this year which will see eight HD channels broadcast nationwide on two multiplexes using DVB-T2. The same goes for Finland who are also gearing up for the launch of two DVB-T2 multiplexes this year.
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Markymark
The best option for the new space would be to use it for a BBC One HD simulcast. Once it has been rolled out to all platforms, BBC One content can be removed from BBC HD, which will still find it easy to fill a schedule made up of content from all other channels (as well as reruns of BBC One programmes). I don't think there will be a need for approval from the BBC Trust either, as it won't be a new service.


What would be nice would be an option on the Freesat receivers to remap any future BBC 1 HD service to EPG position 101, because who in their right mind would watch BBC 1 SD, even for SD programming when they could have a much better picture watching the up scaled SD progs in MPEG 4 rattling out at <cough> 9 Mb/s.

Of course the same idea could apply to ITV 1 in a couple of weeks time, (though there are commercial issues with that !)

(No, I haven't forgotten about regional/national programming and opts, I could learn to change channel for my fix of South Today)
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noggin Founding member



The rest of Europe that have already gone HD OTA have gone for HD DVB-T using H264. Therefore there are DVB-T H264 HD sets knocking around already - it's what Sweden, Norway, France, Ireland etc. are using for HD (and in Norway and Ireland's case SD, and in France SD Pay-TV)

There have been a number of HD H264 DVB-T sets on sale in Britain for a little while now - that will work fine in HD elsewhere in Europe - but not in the UK where we're the first to use T2.


Actually, there are other countries that intend to launch DVB-T2 services this year. SVT in Sweden recently suspended their HD broadcasts with DVB-T, and are intending to take part in a greater launch later this year which will see eight HD channels broadcast nationwide on two multiplexes using DVB-T2. The same goes for Finland who are also gearing up for the launch of two DVB-T2 multiplexes this year.


Yes - AIUI Sweden are likely to go for a VHF DVB-T2 SFN to cover the country with HD content - and Finland are going T2 as well (The Nordig standard now includes it) Hadn't realised they had suspended their DVB-T H264 SVT HD stuff - it was on-air in September when I was last there.

My point was that not all DVB-T sets are SD-only. There are DVB-T sets with H264 HD decoders already around.
Last edited by noggin on 17 March 2010 10:17pm
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(No, I haven't forgotten about regional/national programming and opts, I could learn to change channel for my fix of South Today)
But would you forget to change ITV channel every time there is an advertising break ? Laughing

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