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SB
ScreenBrands
Just announced on media gaurdian:

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FilmFour is to go free to air from July, making the premium subscription movie channel available to Freeview users for the first time. More follows ..


From Digital Spy:
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Channel 4 has confirmed that premium movie service FilmFour will become a free-to-view service from July.

The move will coincide with the channel's launch on Freeview and will takes its reach from 300,000 homes - subscribers currently pay £7 a month for the service - to a potential 18 million.

Unlike E4, which is largely FTA but remains a pay TV channel on satellite, FilmFour will be available to all Sky and Freesat viewers.

"Channel 4 has a pedigree in film that is second to none amongst British broadcasters – we’ve not only showcased the best films on Channel 4 and FilmFour, we’ve actually funded and produced many of them as well," said Andy Duncan, C4 chief exec.

"E4 has shown the ratings gains that can be made by going free-to-air and I’m convinced that a highly distinct and desirable brand like FilmFour can also make an impact on a wider audience.”

The new FilmFour channel will typically screen six films a day between the transmission hours of 3pm and 3am. The station pledges to offer a "broader range of films than any other UK channel", screening classic films in the day, Hollywood fare and US/UK independent cinema in peak and foreign language and cult at night. Advert breaks during films will also be introduced for the first time.

The FilmFour Weekly channel will be closed, while FilmFour's timeshift channel will remain on cable and satellite.

More soon.
SJ
sjhoward
The full MG article is here and here:
MediaGuardian posted:
Channel 4 is to relaunch its movie channel FilmFour in July as a free-to-air service, which will be available on Freeview for the first time.

FilmFour, home of British films such as Trainspotting and independent movies from the likes of Pedro Almod�var and Quentin Tarantino, will also go from being a premium subscription channel to a free offering on Sky Digital and digital cable TV.

The switch, which has been long been mooted by the Channel 4 chief executive, Andy Duncan, will make the channel available in 18m homes with digital TV, as opposed to the 300,000 who currently pay up to �7 a month for the service.

FilmFour's move follows Channel 4's decision to put another pay-TV service, E4, onto Freeview in May last year. E4 has since almost doubled its audience share, up to 2.3% in 2006 so far, compared with 1.25% in the same period last year.

Sister station FilmFour Weekly, which offered a cinema-style schedule by playing the same three films at the same time each night across the week, is to close.

Channel 4 will also launch a FilmFour-branded video on demand subscription service on platforms including broadband, mobile and cable later this year.

"Channel 4 has a pedigree in film that is second to none amongst British broadcasters - we've not only showcased the best films on Channel 4 and FilmFour, we've actually funded and produced many of them as well," said Mr Duncan.

"E4 has shown the ratings gains that can be made by going free-to-air and I'm convinced that a highly distinct and desirable brand like FilmFour can also make an impact on a wider audience."

The new FilmFour will carry six films a day, broadcasting for 12 hours from 3pm to 3am. Unlike the old channel and Sky's movie services, it will carry advertising breaks within the films for the first time.

Mr Duncan said the switch would "significantly extend our presence in multichannel homes in advance of digital switchover".

"It will also strengthen our public service contribution by offering regular showcases for British and European movies, including films financed by Channel 4 itself through its �10m annual production fund," he said.

Channel 4 claimed FilmFour would offer a "broader range of films than any other UK film channel, with classic films earlier in the day giving way to modern Hollywood output and the best of US and UK independent cinema in peak time and foreign-language and cult cinema late at night".

Although FilmFour is understood to have started making a modest profit, it was likely to be unsustainable in the long term because of its limited subscriber base.

By switching to free-to-air, and in particular by giving it a berth on the burgeoning Freeview platform, Channel 4 hopes to be able to make more money from advertising than it used to from subscriptions.

FilmFour launched on November 1 1998 but never enjoyed the success of the film with which it was most synonymous, Trainspotting.

Two spinoff channels, FilmFour World and FilmFour Extreme, were subsequently launched but closed in 2003.
BR
Brekkie
Can't say this is fantastic news - to me it's just C4 filling a slot on Freeview (they probably didn't need) with the easiest option.

It'll also inevitably mean that films will be shown with ads, rather than uninterupted as at the moment. I think FilmFour Weekly will be missed by subscribers too.


Though no dedicated film channel, Freeview does have more than it's fair share of movies, beginning with something on More4 around 4pm, then with movies most nights on at least one of the ITV channels, plus regularly on E4, More4 and the BBC channels. I suspect Five's new channel will also have more than it's fair share of movies.


It will probably do better than More4+1 though - but C4 would struggle to launch a new channel that performed better than E4+1, which gets around half the E4 audience - and probably more than alot of other Freeview channels.


One thing though is alot of TV mags appear to have dropped FilmFour from it's listings - but putting it on Freeview should get it back on the listings pages.
CW
cwathen Founding member
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It'll also inevitably mean that films will be shown with ads, rather than uninterupted as at the moment. I think FilmFour Weekly will be missed by subscribers too.

The article does say that adverts will be shown during films. I can see the move of FilmFour to FTA being exactly the same as that of E4 - the brand is available, so the Freeview website has another 'killer' channel they can plug, but the channel itself will be much watered-down from the version which caused it to become such a big name in the first place.

The change from MK1 FilmFour (3 distinct channels + a production facility) to the present MK2 FilmFour (1 proper channel and a weekly repeats channel) has allready been pretty jarring in terms of output, and a future MK3 FilmFour (just the one channel, and now with internal adverts during films) could end up becoming something of a damp squib if not carefully managed - or maybe not, few people seem to have noticed that E4 is now a shadow of the channel which launched 5 years ago.

That said, it is good that there is at least an FTA film channel on DTT, if UKTV Sport ever materialises as a full channel, it will then allow the Freeview website to plug a full range of channels for the first time.

Although obviously good news for people who don't presently have access to FilmFour, I get the feeling that much of the present subscriber base would rather pay for the service they get now than get the upcoming watered down version for free.
BR
Brekkie
Digital Spy says they will be launching "FilmFour on Demand" on broadband, offering FilmFour movies on demand - so that could perhaps target the subscription market it's leaving.


I wonder if FilmFour will be place out on Mux D, or whether it'll replace Quizcall on Mux 2 so it's grouped with C4, E4 and More4 - with Quizcall moving to Mux D.

This would be the better solution as Mux D isn't as widely available as Mux 2 - and also it allows for Teletext on 4 to be available on FilmFour too.
BR
Brekkie
cwathen posted:


The change from MK1 FilmFour (3 distinct channels + a production facility) to the present MK2 FilmFour (1 proper channel and a weekly repeats channel) has allready been pretty jarring in terms of output, and a future MK3 FilmFour (just the one channel, and now with internal adverts during films) could end up becoming something of a damp squib if not carefully managed - or maybe not, few people seem to have noticed that E4 is now a shadow of the channel which launched 5 years ago.



E4 though has picked up since it switched to Freeview and though still heavily reliant on US imports (and Big Brother of course), it has it's fair share of original programming. And generally E4 are showing something not seen before while ITV2 screen yet another movie or BBC3 show Two Pints of Lager and the millionth repeat!


I think though More4 still needs a bit of work - they could do with a couple more big imports, especially with The West Wing coming to an end - and more original content for it's Monday night "Event" slot.

There are still some conflicts with E4 and More4. For example, E4 is screening "Brat Camp Unseen", a spin-off from Brat Camp - but the main show is getting it's repeat on More4 (who seem to repeat whatever C4 show at 9pm the next day at 10pm).
NW
nwtv2003
Brekkie Boy posted:
I wonder if FilmFour will be place out on Mux D, or whether it'll replace Quizcall on Mux 2 so it's grouped with C4, E4 and More4 - with Quizcall moving to Mux D.

This would be the better solution as Mux D isn't as widely available as Mux 2 - and also it allows for Teletext on 4 to be available on FilmFour too.


I would have thought Film Four would be going on Mux D, as when Channel 4 got the slot they said that More4 +1 will only be temporary, plus I don't think they'd happily pay £10 Million per year to let More4 +1 have a channel, though More4 is doing as well, I'm certain it doesn't bring in as many viewers as E4.

I'd rather it replace Quiz Call, but I can't see that happening as that probably makes Channel 4 money, but I'd rather have More4 +1 anyday rather than Quiz Call.

I'm tempted to jack in NTL now, the only channels I watch are ones on Freeview, and if they show more Futurama on Sky Three then I might, get value for money, today's news only sweetens the deal.
CW
cwathen Founding member
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I wonder if FilmFour will be place out on Mux D, or whether it'll replace Quizcall on Mux 2 so it's grouped with C4, E4 and More4 - with Quizcall moving to Mux D.

This would be the better solution as Mux D isn't as widely available as Mux 2 - and also it allows for Teletext on 4 to be available on FilmFour too.

Mux D isn't as overloaded as Mux 2, so FilmFour would look better on there. My ideal scenario would be for More 4+1 to move to Mux 2, FIlmFour to go on Mux D, and Quizcall to disappear off the face of the planet - it was very sad to see FTA DTT take on such sh*te when it is finally starting to offer some decent channels.

Although ditching More4 +1 seems obvious, it will be interesting to gauge reaction to it - the idea of removing a channel of significance 'from Freeview' (even if it is a +1) after the recent spate of adding channels 'to Freeview' could cause people to question whether or not E4+1 is about to disappear too (What they will do with BB this year will be interesting).

Hopefully, Quizcall will be the one to loose out here. But that said, it's easy to forget that although Channel 4 Television Corporation (the main C4 channel) is a public service, 4Ventures (every other channel) is not. Commercial interests probably will win here, and More4+1 will probably get the axe, whilst Quizcall will be allowed to continue.

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they said that More4 +1 will only be temporary

IIRC, they didn't actually say that it was temporar y (i.e. confirming that it won't be around forever), they just said that it was given to More4+1 ' initially ' (i.e. stating that they hadn't decided whether the +1 would be permanent or not). Despite everything I've said above, I still wouldn't care to say for definate whether FilmFour will appear at the expense of Quizcall or More4+1
MI
Michael
Sorry but I'm not seeing More4+1 sticking around - it was launched sometime after More4 itself and has always had that placeholder feel to it for those of us who've expected Film4 on Freeview for a while now. Personally its only value to me is being able to see the Daily Show after I come home from work and have me tea rather than having to rush home etc. However I can live with that, as I can live without the three helpings per day of the same Deal or No Deal (4:15pm, 6:10pm and 7:10pm). Finally, Freeview has a film channel - now all we need is UKTV Sport to replace FTN and we're sorted Smile
SK
skyisthebest
A new slot on Mux C should be on the way soon. I will be interested to see who bids for this slot. If Channel 4 bids again, and is successful again, we could see More 4 +1 AND FilmFour on Freeview.

If Channel 4 axed Quiz Call from Freeview only (kept Quiz Call on Sky and cable) another channel slot could be available. So this structure is possible if Channel 4 is successful in getting the new Mux C slot which is coming soon:

Mux 2: Channel 4, E4, More 4 & FilmFour (FilmFour replaces Quiz Call)
Mux C: E4 +1 & FilmFour +1 (E4 +1 unchanged; FilmFour +1 in new slot)
Mux D: More 4 +1 (unchanged)

It would be great to see Quiz Call disappear from Freeview, but i doubt it will happen any time soon.

29 days later

BR
Brekkie
A couple of snippets:

C4 have signed a £150m deal with 20th Century Fox for their movie catalogue, including Dodgeball and The Day after Tomorrow, X-Men 3 and The Omen 666.

The deal covers over a thousand back-catalogue movies plus all new releases, with films airing on C4, E4 and FilmFour.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30253.html


P.S. What is FilmFour's current presentation? Ahead of the Guantanamo film last night there was an ident with a fire engine bursting into flames and then a red FilmFour logo splashing on to the screen.

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