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Lewismpsmith69 posts since 12 May 2018
Meridian (South East) South East Today
I'd just like to say thank you to the people reintroducing videos to this thread instead of "I remember when x happened to y and z got taken off air."


Given that its unlikely that our "favourite" breakdowns will have been taped for posterity and uploaded to YouTube decades later, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.


Obviously it’s easier to discuss breakdowns and speculate on what may have happened when we can see the video evidence. However, as you imply, many of us will remember breakdowns, mishaps and the like for which there is no video available. If explained in sufficient detail, surely these are also of interest?


And the first couple of posts on this thread was breakdowns that people remembered, some that had been on YouTube years ago but have since been removed.

If only I could get a full version of the Wallace and Gromit theme playing over one of the BBC1 dancer idents from Christmas 2002...
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robertclark1251,388 posts since 13 Jan 2009
STV Central Reporting Scotland
One incident in the 1990s, which was not a breakdown per se, on STV, we heard the continuity announcer talking over a slide for the next programme, and we also heard the first advert for the break getting played, before rewinding. Then we went to the break and the first ad was played again. The ad break went without a hitch; it was just that they played the advert initialy before the break, and rewound it!
Lewismpsmith69 posts since 12 May 2018
Meridian (South East) South East Today
There was one BBC1 breakdown from 2003 that I did post on here which did have it's own video before the uploader removed it.

It happened during an FA Cup match between Manchester City and Liverpool when in the second half of the match, the picture and audio starts glitching up.

This happened for a good 3 minutes before the picture and sound finally kicks the bucket, leaving us with a long period of black-screen before BBC1's breakdown caption (from the dancers era) is eventually thrown up with the announcer saying that she's "really sorry".

Thread from that particular breakdown is here: https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/bbc-breakdown-38230/
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SonicBen270676 posts since 29 Apr 2018
Meridian (South) South Today
I read in that thread that BBC1 could broadcast 5Live audio if they needed to. Didn't they do that once with the picture being the breakdown slide? Seem to remember it happening when there was a big match in Austria and lightning knocked out the signal so they eventually continued in audio only (from 5Live) until the feed came back.
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Orry Verducci1,638 posts since 1 Feb 2005
Anglia (West) Look East
I read in that thread that BBC1 could broadcast 5Live audio if they needed to. Didn't they do that once with the picture being the breakdown slide? Seem to remember it happening when there was a big match in Austria and lightning knocked out the signal so they eventually continued in audio only (from 5Live) until the feed came back.

It was Euro 2008, a severe thunderstorm caused a power cut which knocked out the IBC, taking down the world feed. IIRC all broadcasters around the world lost coverage, with the exception of local broadcaster SRF who had their own feed.


BBC One quickly put up the breakdown slide with 5 live audio, with the occasional apology from the announcer explaining what had happened. As the IBC started to come back online I believe they gained access to a clean feed without graphics or commentary, so stuck with 5 live audio, until the proper world feed was restored.
mici012327 posts since 23 Jul 2017
BBC World

It was Euro 2008, a severe thunderstorm caused a power cut which knocked out the IBC, taking down the world feed. IIRC all broadcasters around the world lost coverage, with the exception of local broadcaster SRF who had their own feed.


That was also the game where the German ZDF famously hijacked the satellite signal from SRF (or just SF at the time). That way they didn't miss any of Germanys goals.
Hatton Cross3,218 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Define 'Hijack'!
I suspect ZDF would have argued as both them and SRF were both members of Eurovision/EBU and rights holders to the tournament, they could 'use' the coverage until the back-ups were up and running either locally at the ground or the IBC as the SRF feed was the only stable one available at the time. If something happened - overdub afterwards, and credit 'Das Footage von SRF'.

It does happen occasionally. I know of one football commentary which was being carried 'off air' for goal archiving purposes, where the BBC LR commentators ISDN codex box - or the line connector failed. He asked if they could dial up the rivals ILR ISDN and 'listen in' (they were carrying the game live) back at base whilst the meltdown was fixed - so they didn't miss anything.
All very cordial, and the BBC were back up and running after about 2 minutes - and they had no need to use any audio from the commercial radio commentary.

Not my station, I hasten to add - that would never have been sanctioned.
I heard the 'discussions' about what had happened on our effects mic after the game, from the BBC reporter concerned, in a conversation to someone else across the tables in the press box.
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mici012327 posts since 23 Jul 2017
BBC World
Well hijack as in they didn't ask SRF or the UEFA for persmission first.

The licensing contract with ZDF explicitly stated they had to use the IBC world feed. There were some talks the days after if UEFA would terminate their contract fot the rest of the tournament (they still had the final to show).
Prsumably UEFA just didn't do anything because it was mainly seen as UEFAs fault that the IBCs backup generators did not work properly.

Also ZDF did misuse a veiwing card for the Swiss feed that was actually provided to them to rebroadcast SRFs news programs on 3sat.
noggin14,313 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Yes - quite a number of issues in ZDF behaving in this manner, particularly if they took the Swiss commentary (as they won't have a talent rights contract for the commentator(s)

However in situations like this the mantra is often "Better to ask forgiveness than permission"...