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IS
Inspector Sands
I have seen a satellite move, well I've watched as everything on it gradually disappeared. First assumption was that it was our dish moving off but then when SNG trucks started phoning it was obvious it wasn't us.

Cue phone call to the owner of the satellite who very sheepishly said they'd look into it... as if it was the first they'd heard of it Embarassed
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Thanks Noggin, that was the one, the VE Day programme. Now you say it, of course it couldn't be a time of day thing, just marginal reception I guess.
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A former member

I still wonder how or why LWT was picking up Germany Channel. Mind you it no worse than what you saw on benny hill

You've made that comparison before and you're still wrong.... unless you saw some very different Benny Hill shows to everyone else!


As to why RTL was available in LWT that night, well there are some possible legitimate reasons why it could have been... but the most likely is that someone working in lines wanted something to watch to liven up their shift


I just think what there got away with on ITV back in the day, Im sure there had woman showing of there breast on bennyhill. Anyways the reason for asking is maybe RTL feed was part of the German link to british Army television service which was based in LWT at the time. ?
IS
Inspector Sands

I just think what there got away with on ITV back in the day, Im sure there had woman showing of there breast on bennyhill.

My recollection of Benny Hill is vague, but I'm fairly certain that there wasn't any actual nudity on Benny Hill, just scantily clad.

Certainly it wouldn't have been shown so much in the US if it featured topless ladies, let alone naked fondling ones like that bit of RTL

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Anyways the reason for asking is maybe RTL feed was part of the German link to british Army television service which was based in LWT at the time. ?

Looked that up on TV Studio History and that arrangement ended in 1985. Also why they'd be sending German TV to the UK for soldiers to watch I've no idea
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Steve in Pudsey
One of the all time classics - a live Panorama and all of the VT and film packages were unavailable.

Turns up on clip shows now and again, but what happened next? Did they leave Dimbleby sitting twiddling his thumbs like a lemon or did pres do the slide and music routine?
RO
robertclark125
Isn't that the one Steve, where the phone rang as David Dimbleby was trying to fill, and he said something like "so we've not got this film, and not got that film? So what am I supposed to tell the viewers?", who, of course, were hearing Dimbleby!

Live sport has always been vulnerable to breakdowns or errors. A Challenge cup rugby league match in 1988 was affected for a couple of minutes with a power cut, the video is on youtube, on Grandstand. Then in 1993 or 1994, a Natwest Trophy cricket match on BBC2 was lost for a couple of hours by a power cut.

When we're on about power cuts, Tony Currie, you may remember this one. I came home from school one day, in 1993 or 1994, to be told by mum and dad that STV and Channel 4 were off air. BBC1 and 2 had been lost for just a few seconds. STV and Channel 4 returned at about 6pm. Although we're served by Craigkelly, it turns out that the problem was in the west of Scotland. An electricity pylon had fell over in a landslip, which resulted in power to presumabley Blackhill being lost. The upshot was, BBC1 and BBC2 had the RBS system, so we got another feed, meaning we kept those. STV had filler material when they came back at about 18:00, basically the STV thistle logo, in the corner with footage of scenes of Scotland, with music. A shortened Scotland today was then broadcast, with the pylon collapse as one of the stories. A shorter unscheduled Scotland Today was broadcast circa 19:30.

Tony, you may be able to correct me, but I'm guessing the pylon collapse either affected the signal going to the transmitter, or perhaps affected the output from STV at Cowcaddens.
CB
ChipperBird
One of the all time classics - a live Panorama and all of the VT and film packages were unavailable.

Turns up on clip shows now and again, but what happened next? Did they leave Dimbleby sitting twiddling his thumbs like a lemon or did pres do the slide and music routine?




The clip in question. Coo what an awkward position.
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Steve in Pudsey

When we're on about power cuts, Tony Currie, you may remember this one. I came home from school one day, in 1993 or 1994, to be told by mum and dad that STV and Channel 4 were off air. BBC1 and 2 had been lost for just a few seconds. STV and Channel 4 returned at about 6pm. Although we're served by Craigkelly, it turns out that the problem was in the west of Scotland. An electricity pylon had fell over in a landslip, which resulted in power to presumabley Blackhill being lost. The upshot was, BBC1 and BBC2 had the RBS system, so we got another feed, meaning we kept those. STV had filler material when they came back at about 18:00, basically the STV thistle logo, in the corner with footage of scenes of Scotland, with music. A shortened Scotland today was then broadcast, with the pylon collapse as one of the stories. A shorter unscheduled Scotland Today was broadcast circa 19:30.

I think we've covered they one before and the general theory was that the pylon failure took out Black Hill, and the other transmitters in the STV patch were fed from there either via rebroadcast or a point on the SHF route.
Last edited by Steve in Pudsey on 29 April 2018 8:23pm
DV
dvboy
Two I remember:

Something for the Weekend goes off air on the day the clocks go forward, suggesting someone booked the satellite time wrong.


BBC News Channel gets interrupted by The Film Review people playing YouTube clips of The Broom Cupboard:


I mean it was far more exciting than Doorwatch with Maxine Mahwinney.
BE
Bennyboy1984

Also Talking Telephone Numbers... Smile

(The url for which I can never find. Anyone?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFyDwz8m_4

You're welcome.


So what would have caused “OFF AIR” to appear and remain on screen?
TI
TIGHazard

Also Talking Telephone Numbers... Smile

(The url for which I can never find. Anyone?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFyDwz8m_4

You're welcome.


So what would have caused “OFF AIR” to appear and remain on screen?


Presumably a off air recording done by a member of the production team (for compliance, archive, to actually see what's going out on the air and not what's on screen in the gallery, etc)

The VTR at the studio will have been programmed to display that on screen
MA
Markymark

(*) They do move a very small amount - but usually this is less than the beam width of your dish so you don't need to refocus. However AIUI the bigger the dish, the narrower the beam width, and as bigger dishes are often used for broadcasts, you end up having to dynamically track some ageing satellites to counteract the wobble (but these satellites are cheaper to use...)


I've stood amongst Sky's uplink dishes at Chilworth, and there are indeed servos that regularly shift the dishes' aim by tiny amounts, to compensate for the Astra satellites 'wandering' about in their orbits.

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