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Larry the Loafer Granada North West Today
There's some extremely faint chatter as well just before the sound comes back.
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Si-Co Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I remember posting about a video on YouTube, said video no longer there, where Granada goes into corrie. But, a few seconds after the the titles start, the tape pauses. It goes to a holding slide, and the Granada ca apologising for the breakdown. Was that simply a case of someone hitting the pause button? It was in the 1980s


How long did the breakdown last? I’ve seen similar examples when it just appears that the “pause” button has been accidentally pressed, but sometimes the show was off air for several minutes - and you would expect it’s just as easy to un-pause the tape, if that’s all that happened - so perhaps the fault wasn’t that simple.
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James Vertigan Founding member West Country (West) Spotlight
September 1994 and The Big Breakfast lose sound for a few minutes. Nothing too exciting except a very plain "Temporary Fault" caption which I assume came from C4 pres


Another Big Breakfast breakdown here - although not great quality - where the Dennis VT is having an issue so whilst it’s fixed we’re treated to a Curtis Schwartz/KPM take on Madonna’s ‘Vogue’...

http://ppfiles.meldrum.co.uk/files/mp4/bbfault.rm.mp4

Also I remember there being a major fault one St Patrick’s Day (I think either a power cut at the house or a major transmitter issue) and when they came back on air Chris was seen switching on a power socket and blaming a leprechaun.
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
That's a strange one, if it was just a VT problem why wouldn't they cut back to the studio? I'm guessing that the apology caption came from C4?
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Inspector Sands
That's a strange one, if it was just a VT problem why wouldn't they cut back to the studio? I'm guessing that the apology caption came from C4?

Either Channel 4 just saw there was a fault and ducked out straight into breakdown. Or more likely as soon as the link finished everyone got up and started to get ready for the next one,so couldn't go back to Gaby.

They might have done what CBBC used to do in TC9 - the programmes were played in locally but the gallery was bypassed so they could rehearse and prepare. I'd be very surprised if BB didn't do something similar
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Steve Williams
Also I remember there being a major fault one St Patrick’s Day (I think either a power cut at the house or a major transmitter issue) and when they came back on air Chris was seen switching on a power socket and blaming a leprechaun.


That's right, it was off air for about ten minutes, and when it came back you did indeed see Chris sticking a plug back in the wall and pointing at a toy leprechaun they'd been playing with all morning, which was a top bit of improvisation. And then during the phone-in competition, Chris asked the caller what C4 had done while they were off air, and she said "they played some awful music".
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That's a strange one, if it was just a VT problem why wouldn't they cut back to the studio? I'm guessing that the apology caption came from C4?

Either Channel 4 just saw there was a fault and ducked out straight into breakdown. Or more likely as soon as the link finished everyone got up and started to get ready for the next one,so couldn't go back to Gaby.


The BB was the kind of the show where they could have just cut back to the house, accept a few seconds of confusion and wobbly camerawork and carried on though, rather than C4 continuity throwing up a slide and taking it off air.
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Whataday Founding member Wales Wales Today
That's a strange one, if it was just a VT problem why wouldn't they cut back to the studio? I'm guessing that the apology caption came from C4?


I remember that going out live and I'm sure the fault we see is not quite what went out. There was certainly no sound but the picture wasn't wobbly. If you notice, the clock is affected too so I think whatever goes wrong with transmission has affected the VHS recording.
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robertclark125 Central Reporting Scotland
Si-Co posted:
I remember posting about a video on YouTube, said video no longer there, where Granada goes into corrie. But, a few seconds after the the titles start, the tape pauses. It goes to a holding slide, and the Granada ca apologising for the breakdown. Was that simply a case of someone hitting the pause button? It was in the 1980s


How long did the breakdown last? I’ve seen similar examples when it just appears that the “pause” button has been accidentally pressed, but sometimes the show was off air for several minutes - and you would expect it’s just as easy to un-pause the tape, if that’s all that happened - so perhaps the fault wasn’t that simple.


Not sure how long it lasted, as the youtube video ended after Jim Pope's apology announcement. He did say they would get back to the programme as soon as they could.
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
That's a strange one, if it was just a VT problem why wouldn't they cut back to the studio? I'm guessing that the apology caption came from C4?

Either Channel 4 just saw there was a fault and ducked out straight into breakdown. Or more likely as soon as the link finished everyone got up and started to get ready for the next one,so couldn't go back to Gaby.


The BB was the kind of the show where they could have just cut back to the house, accept a few seconds of confusion and wobbly camerawork and carried on though, rather than C4 continuity throwing up a slide and taking it off air.

It looked to me like C4 stepped in when that didn't happen.

I wonder if that piece with Gaby and the family was pre recorded so they couldn't go back? Did they do that kind of thing?
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Hatton Cross Central (West) Midlands Today
There were more bits of the Big Breakfast recorded than it appeared.

The Crunch was 50% live and 50% recorded over a given week. Although not a surprise when the puppeters were also doing shows 5 days a week on RTE Two.

You could tell, because in the early days the VT machine (which I assume P24 inherited when they brought the BBC OB scanner as a gallery) was really poor and the picture quality from recorded to live was very noticable. Plus, Evans managed to head from the (live) competiton in the garden, up to the bathroom far quicker and less out of breath when The Crunch was recorded.

Some of Paula's interviews were pre-recorded - although that was usually down to guest availabilty and whether they wanted to head to Bow for half eight in the morning, or slightly more mid-morning.

And I'm sure some of Gabys 'other side of the living room' interviews were also pre-recorded, as in those the lighting levels were always brighter, which you'd expect between early morning and towards the middle of day.

Talking of pre-recorded shows. I often wondered when they went through a phase of pre-rec'ing editions around Christmas exactly when those were done, because I'm sure in some it was dark outside (and not obvious filters on the windows, or more obviously, having the curtains drawn) so they must have done them on a weekend a couple of weeks before, or, done them at the other end of the day as it was getting dark around 5-6pm in the afternoon.
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Steve Williams
The Crunch was 50% live and 50% recorded over a given week. Although not a suprise when the puppetters were also doing shows 5 days a week on RTE Two.

You could tell, because in the early days the VT machine (which I assume P24 inherited when they brought the BBC OB scanner as a gallery) was really poor and the picture quality from recorded to live was very noticable. Plus, Evans managed to head from the (live) competiton in the garden, up to the bathroom far quicker and less out of breath when The Crunch was recorded.


As Evans says in his book, even though Zig and Zag was mostly pre-recorded, they still managed to convince Planet 24 to rent a massively swanky flat for them when they came to London to do The Big Breakfast, even though they were only there one day a fortnight. Chris stayed there a few times while his marriage was up in the air, and he also says that the Zig and Zag out-takes tape which he owns is the funniest thing he's ever seen.

That's also why when Chris was on holiday they would sometimes have another presenter doing The Crunch, rather than the main guest host, presumably if they couldn't make it for the pre-records. As you suggest, it was quite easy to know when Zig and Zag were live as they would be on quite frequently throughout the morning as well as The Crunch.
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