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JO
Joe
tvarksouthwest posted:
You Farscape fans don't seem to understand it is a REPEAT, something there are far too many of on BBC2 at present. Downtime helps keep the number of these to a minimum.


Surely Ceefax is too - after all, you can view it 24/7 just by pressing a button on your remote. I don't remember seeing a Farscape button.
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tvarksouthwest
Oh you're so predictable. You know I'm not going to budge my thinking on this issue so why are we going round in circles?
NE
Netizen
tvarksouthwest posted:
You Farscape fans don't seem to understand it is a REPEAT, something there are far too many of on BBC2 at present. Downtime helps keep the number of these to a minimum.

So you don't approve of the BBC making use of repeat rights they've paid for? Apart from your own backwards, selfish interests, who exactly is negatively affected by repeats on overnights? I suspect using logic against your arguments is fruitless but please do prove me wrong.
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crais
What the hell!

Surely somebody's taking the juice?

Forgive me I'm new to this forum but Ceefax is available on just about every television by clicking on a "text button" or digital text is available through your digi box while fantastic shows like Farscape are rarely aired at all.

Anything that is aired on Ceefax is basically an extension of the news anyway which can be caught many times per day on multiple channels.

If TV arc south West isn't taking the juice jesus man buy yourself a new TV, if you can't get Ceefax on your TV your TV must be like 20 years old! Else wise buy yourself a digital box and you can watch digital text through your TV.
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A former member
Personally I'd rather they put ANYTHING on rather than GlitterballBrotherFax all bloody night.

As has already been said, switch on teletext on your TV, switch to page 152 is it? and put your favourite hammond organ dirge on in the background. That way you can watch Ceefax all day long while the rest of us watch real TV.

I had a fixation with the testcard when I was 3 years old. I grew out of it....
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tvarksouthwest
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Forgive me I'm new to this forum but Ceefax is available on just about every television by clicking on a "text button" or digital text is available through your digi box while fantastic shows like Farscape are rarely aired at all.

If I had a tenner for every time I've heard this absolutely CLUELESS statement...
JR
jrothwell97
crais posted:
What the hell!

Surely somebody's taking the juice?

Forgive me I'm new to this forum but Ceefax is available on just about every television by clicking on a "text button" or digital text is available through your digi box


No you can't get Ceefax. All you're left with on digital TV is the rather rubbish BBCi service, and on analogue telly when your reception is rubbish you've got to make do with garbled stuff.

What I'd really like to see is BBCi scrapped and replaced with a brand new, from-the-ground-up rebuilt version of Ceefax.
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Paul Clark
jrothwell97 posted:
What I'd really like to see is BBCi scrapped and replaced with a brand new, from-the-ground-up rebuilt version of Ceefax.


I would second that...

Though I do feel that a large part of the lack of appeal that the BBCi service has for me is really down to the appearance and the layout. It would('ve) be(en) great to see the Ceefax that we know 'evolve' fully into the digital era; and I don't think we've quite come on leaps and bounds with BBCi which does feel quite clunky through the various menus.
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crais
tvarksouthwest posted:
Quote:
Forgive me I'm new to this forum but Ceefax is available on just about every television by clicking on a "text button" or digital text is available through your digi box while fantastic shows like Farscape are rarely aired at all.

If I had a tenner for every time I've heard this absolutely CLUELESS statement...


Well why don't you could clue people in instead of being snooty and rude. Am I wrong in assuming that when you click your text button on your television while watching an analogue signal you do not get Ceefax, if not what the hell am I and others receiving?

J Rothwell, I personally don't like the new weather ( or perhaps not so new weather) that they have on BBC. But just because I don't like it doesn't mean they're going to go back. In the same way that you don't like digital text it's just tough so enjoy a Ceefax while it lasts. Personally I prefer Ceefax over digital text but there's no way in hell I would want Ceefax running instead of proper programming repeats or otherwise. Thank God there's a better option than broadcasting Ceefax. While we're at it why don't we close the BBC at midnight ending with God Save the Queen.
JR
jrothwell97
crais posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Quote:
Forgive me I'm new to this forum but Ceefax is available on just about every television by clicking on a "text button" or digital text is available through your digi box while fantastic shows like Farscape are rarely aired at all.

If I had a tenner for every time I've heard this absolutely CLUELESS statement...


Well why don't you could clue people in instead of being snooty and rude. Am I wrong in assuming that when you click your text button on your television while watching an analogue signal you do not get Ceefax, if not what the hell am I and others receiving?

J Rothwell, I personally don't like the new weather ( or perhaps not so new weather) that they have on BBC. But just because I don't like it doesn't mean they're going to go back. In the same way that you don't like digital text it's just tough so enjoy a Ceefax while it lasts. Personally I prefer Ceefax over digital text but there's no way in hell I would want Ceefax running instead of proper programming repeats or otherwise. Thank God there's a better option than broadcasting Ceefax. While we're at it why don't we close the BBC at midnight ending with God Save the Queen.


Yes please.
JO
Joe
tvarksouthwest, as somebody has already said, give us the clue, so we can stop being so clueless. What appeals to you most? The music or the Ceefax pages themselves?
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tvarksouthwest
crais posted:
Well why don't you could clue people in instead of being snooty and rude. Am I wrong in assuming that when you click your text button on your television while watching an analogue signal you do not get Ceefax, if not what the hell am I and others receiving?

crais, I see from your "joined" date that you are a newbie here. I'm also guessing (and do feel free to correct me) that you may well be considerably younger than me, quite likely born after 1986, and have possibly never known anything but 24-hour broadcasting on the main channels. So I will explain.

An in-vision broadcast of rolling Ceefax pages is a completely seperate animal from accessing Ceefax on my own teletext set, not because of the Ceefax pages, but because when you access Ceefax yourself you don't hear the library music which accompanies it during an in-vision broadcast. Those who grew up in the 1980s will know that Ceefax took up much of the daytime hours on both BBC channels in the period up to October 1986, and the music which accompanied these pages gave much pleasure to many (even if it wasn't something you readily owned up to being interested in). The music used to day, by comparison, may not be as good but there are some of us who haven't completely given up hope!

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Personally I prefer Ceefax over digital text but there's no way in hell I would want Ceefax running instead of proper programming repeats or otherwise. Thank God there's a better option than broadcasting Ceefax. While we're at it why don't we close the BBC at midnight ending with God Save the Queen.

My own personal love for Ceefax in-vision is just one small area of a much wider debate over whether TV channels should broadcast round the clock "just because they can". We are increasingly being served up a diet of "fast food" TV in 2007; a lot of it throwaway and the EPG is littered with copycat channels all making the same type of programmes. That's what I mean when I say by having so much, we've ended up with so little.

In relation to BBC2 and Farscape, which is where this debate started, the problem with BBC2 is even though it does not broadcast round the clock the number of repeats are still far too high. On Monday 23 July, for example, BBC2 broadcast no less than 23 repeats, fifteen of them before 12noon! Not helping this problem was the entire 6am-7am CBeebies slot (which wasn't there before January) and the insistence on a double bill of Kingdom Hospital from 12:50am which, like the Farscape repeats, is placed there less to give people who might have missed the original broadcast a chance to catch up but more to satisfy the channel bosses' "Oh well we can't be seen not to be showing anything, even at this hour!" mindset.

Why, folks, would it be so bad if BBC2 or any other channel "went to bed" after midnight? It's not as if viewers requiring TV at this hour would be left uncatered for. Surely QUALITY is better than QUANTITY? The average amount of nightly Ceefax is currently 2 hours at present, and if you can still get your Top Gear, Weakest Link, Heroes or whatever else you enjoy on the channel why should it bother you?

BBC3 and BBC4 have never broadcast Ceefax during their downtime. Does this mean I wouldn't care if they suddenly went 24 hours? Of course not. Those arguing for an extension of these channels' hours seem to forget that already they often repeat what they show at the start of their broadcast day at the end of it, so any further extension of broadcast hours would also require an increased number of repeats. So while I don't believe it's in 3 and 4's interests to expand their current hours, they could do with having their existing ones brought forward.

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