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Familiar ident music samples heard elsewhere

Plus: BBC 2 Sunroof music used in car ad... In 1997 (February 2013)

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Paul Clark
Ever since the addition of specially-written music to idents, over the years certain sounds and samples within the tracks become associated with particular pres. It's easy to assume all the elements are unique to the ident (or sting) alone. So, it's intriguing to suddenly hear elements of them crop up at other places, usually in other television music.

For example:
Hearing the then titles to BBC's Holiday programme in 2000...
...And my wondering what the flute trill from the BBC 2 Balloon was doing in there.

A 2008 factual programme called Unsung Heroes had text wipes with a whooshing sound effect - flashback to 90s DEF II...

Or that Mitchell and Webb sketch - a clock chimes in the background which sounds very... English?

And various others, too. Quite sure they are mainly from sample library discs (and I've dealt with a few that have along this sort of ground when writing music in more recent years), to be used without having to worry about clearance. But with any strong ident association, it's still odd hearing them 'out of context', in a way. I've no idea where the above ones come from, but it would be interesting to know.


Now -- I did think: despite the BBC 1 Christmas affair, the BBC has had specially-composed music for its *regular* idents to this day. But yesterday evening, I discovered something.

Watching an old recording of Channel 4 from 1997, I'd stopped on an ad for a Toyota Corolla. Yet when I played it, I thought I had mixed up the input select with a set-top box on BBC 2 - it was playing out the Sunroof ident music. Then I realised.

Here's the video capture - quite honestly, I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Shocked

[media:7e755c44e3]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Paul/Channel%204%20Ad%20Break%20June%201997%20Toyota%20Corolla.flv[/media:7e755c44e3]
Can't see the video? This is the direct link

So who exactly knew about this?

I admit, I'm a bit stunned at the idea of a decade-old track already used for an unconnected brand being, erm, commissioned (dredged up?) and on-air, even now. I'm assuming the BBC were fully aware of what they were getting. But without knowing the full picture, it's an odd one. As 'hearing ident music where you least expect it' goes, I reckon this will take some beating...


If anyone else has heard, or recalls, familiar sample sources from pres that have been used in other pieces (perhaps aside from public releases), can identify any sample sources, or shed some light on this curious Sunroof / Toyota ad re-use, I'd really like to hear it.
Last edited by Paul Clark on 10 February 2013 10:45pm
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denton
I remember years ago (probably a decade or more) stopping off at a motorway services in England, and hearing the then current UTV ident music being used on an info-screen.
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Larry the Loafer


I've heard that sound in various other places. Given that the ident wasn't a regular addition to the collection, I'm assuming they simply nabbed it from some sort of sound archive.
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DJGM

Here's the video capture - quite honestly, I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Shocked

[media:ddae319299]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Paul/Channel%204%20Ad%20Break%20June%201997%20Toyota%20Corolla.flv[/media:ddae319299]


That video doesn't appear to be working. This error keeps appearing on the embedded player:

Video not found or access denied:
file=http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Paul/Channel%204%20Ad%20Break%20June%201997%20Toyota%20Corolla.flv


(BTW ... I'm logged into TVF "neon".)
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Paul Clark
DJGM posted:

Here's the video capture - quite honestly, I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Shocked

[media:b73095c359]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Paul/Channel%204%20Ad%20Break%20June%201997%20Toyota%20Corolla.flv[/media:b73095c359]


That video doesn't appear to be working. This error keeps appearing on the embedded player:

Video not found or access denied:
file=http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Paul/Channel%204%20Ad%20Break%20June%201997%20Toyota%20Corolla.flv


(BTW ... I'm logged into TVF "neon".)

Thanks for highlighting this, you're right - it's not working on Neon right now, but it's playing fine on the old / regular TVF, so it can be seen (and heard) there. I'll see if I can provide an alternate link shortly. I've added a direct link below the advert in the first post, which can be opened or saved separately. VLC media player should run it....
Last edited by Paul Clark on 10 February 2013 10:52pm

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cwathen Founding member
I did hear the old Meridian 1993 jingle being used as TOTH news music on CKFM in 2003 (a pilot station for a new ILR station in Cornwall which didn't last).

The C3NE/Tyne Tees ident from 1996 and the Sky News title sequence from 1996 both used the same music, at the same time.
JB
JasonB
Quiz Call would often use a sound effect which sounded like the end of this ident:
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Worzel
Quiz Call would often use a sound effect which sounded like the end of this ident:


Was it not this? Skip along to 10:10 on the clip.



All Quizcall's music was composed by Derek Gibbons.
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Michael
C3NE and Sky News 1997/8 were v similar.

1:11 onwards.
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Si-Co
Quiz Call would often use a sound effect which sounded like the end of this ident:


Wasn't this jingle also used on a video-game of some sort?
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Londoner
The 1997 Five News theme has been used as a bed for a sketch on Radio 4's Now Show on the last two Fridays.
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Brekkie
The end of the Tipping Point theme is very reminisent of the original 5 News theme.

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