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Eurovision 2021 - Netherlands - NPO/AVROTROS/NOS

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CK
Ckck1704
Well, if belarus pulls out, this will be the new logo*
AB
AcerBen
Honestly, I just feel like both Spain and the UK shouldn't have retained their entrants from last year for this year.


It was the moral thing to do.

I really love the Spanish entry actually! And regardless of how the result pans out, he is very popular in Spain so should be a big draw for TVE.
MH
Mateus Honrado
Honestly, I just feel like both Spain and the UK shouldn't have retained their entrants from last year for this year.


It was the moral thing to do.

I really love the Spanish entry actually! And regardless of how the result pans out, he is very popular in Spain so should be a big draw for TVE.

Eh, I don't know. I just feel like Dasoul would've been a better option for this year IMO and if you're wondering, he's best known for the hit "Vuela Corazón".

I also felt the UK should've had a different singer for this year's entry instead of retaining last year's one.

But that's just my opinion, okay.
Last edited by Mateus Honrado on 13 March 2021 4:49pm - 2 times in total
DV
DVB Cornwall
Melfest Final tonight is promised to be available with an SVT supplied English language commentary 'on some platforms'.





... and it's Christer Bjorkman's swansong too. It's his final Melodifestivalen tonight.
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DV
DVB Cornwall
Interesting announcements in the Netherlands tonight, including a tweet from Sietse Bakker, seems that the organisers are now more hopeful of at least some in place audience at the Contest.

We'll see over the coming days.
BH
BillyH Founding member
Sadly it won’t include me this year, my flights to Amsterdam were cancelled by easyJet last week - originally booked for 2020 in January last year and moved to this year once the contest’s cancellation was announced. Can’t really move them to 2022 until I know who’s won and where & when it will be! EasyJet have actually removed all flights to and from Amsterdam that day (there was previously one every few hours from several London airports) and left just one per airport on the Friday and Sunday. I’m wondering if the audience will be kept to a local Netherlands crowd only like the Tokyo Olympics later this year?

To be fair it’s only comparatively recently that there’s been an open audience for Eurovision at all, from what I can see it was restricted to invited VIPs and delegates until well into the 1990s - it’s amusing seeing newer fans watching older contests and wondering why the average age in the audience is about 60, or why when Celine Dion won for Switzerland in 1988 the camera cuts to about six people in the audience celebrating as they’re the only Swiss actually there. I’m not sure exactly when the public started getting invited, but Millstreet in 1993 had a few available as a lottery prize, Birmingham in 1998 had a fair amount that you’d have to apply for by post or win competitions, and internet booking started around 2000-01 by which time it had become an open event to all.

Copenhagen in 2001 had the contest’s biggest ever studio audience of almost 38,000, which can’t have been too hard to get tickets for!
BR
Brekkie
I'd imagine like the Olympics if it has any audience it will mainly be locals. Even the delegations alone would make up quite a sizeable audience (about 800, which nowadays seems massive!) and could probably be passed off as "employees" rather than audience if that is all they are allowed.
tightrope78 and Sh1ruba gave kudos
AB
AcerBen
Sadly it won’t include me this year, my flights to Amsterdam were cancelled by easyJet last week - originally booked for 2020 in January last year and moved to this year once the contest’s cancellation was announced. Can’t really move them to 2022 until I know who’s won and where & when it will be! EasyJet have actually removed all flights to and from Amsterdam that day (there was previously one every few hours from several London airports) and left just one per airport on the Friday and Sunday. I’m wondering if the audience will be kept to a local Netherlands crowd only like the Tokyo Olympics later this year?

To be fair it’s only comparatively recently that there’s been an open audience for Eurovision at all, from what I can see it was restricted to invited VIPs and delegates until well into the 1990s - it’s amusing seeing newer fans watching older contests and wondering why the average age in the audience is about 60, or why when Celine Dion won for Switzerland in 1988 the camera cuts to about six people in the audience celebrating as they’re the only Swiss actually there. I’m not sure exactly when the public started getting invited, but Millstreet in 1993 had a few available as a lottery prize, Birmingham in 1998 had a fair amount that you’d have to apply for by post or win competitions, and internet booking started around 2000-01 by which time it had become an open event to all.

Copenhagen in 2001 had the contest’s biggest ever studio audience of almost 38,000, which can’t have been too hard to get tickets for!


What day were you going to fly out, Billy?
BH
BillyH Founding member
Morning of the 22nd May (the day of the contest) and back out on the Sunday.

Would have been the first time I'd flown direct to the host country as normally I have to transit somewhere on the way, for Lisbon I flew to Madrid and got the train into Portugal which saved a hundred quid or two, and for Stockholm I bought an Interrail pass and overlanded it all the way from London for the hell of it - this being a month before Brexit it was a lot cheaper than had I attempted the same journey a few weeks later.
W1
w1a
Copenhagen in 2001 had the contest’s biggest ever studio audience of almost 38,000, which can’t have been too hard to get tickets for!


You'd think right? It actually sold out in 55 minutes! That show gets a lot of hate from fans for it's staging, but it's actually a better show than 2000 in terms of the songs, and their ageing. Luckily Denmark were involved right to the close in the voting, but in the end, it was Estonia left gloating. Ahem.

I'm afflicted enough with the bug to have been through a lot of the Wogan commentaries, and he mentioned in Malmo 1992 that 'there's about 3,000 people in here, and they've all paid around £100 a seat', followed by 'honestly, the licence fee is such good value'. I expect, with such a small venue it didn't have a big promotional effort.
Last edited by w1a on 24 March 2021 2:14pm - 2 times in total
AB
AcerBen
I agree, 2001 was a great year musically.. not sure why many fans disagree.
AB
AcerBen
Morning of the 22nd May (the day of the contest) and back out on the Sunday.

Would have been the first time I'd flown direct to the host country as normally I have to transit somewhere on the way, for Lisbon I flew to Madrid and got the train into Portugal which saved a hundred quid or two, and for Stockholm I bought an Interrail pass and overlanded it all the way from London for the hell of it - this being a month before Brexit it was a lot cheaper than had I attempted the same journey a few weeks later.


Oh that's weird, since it's the 19th isn't it they were planning on allowing travel?

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