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dvboy10,153 posts since 11 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Is YouTube stream got Dutch commentary? How on earth would the BBC have a copy of that?

It's not from the BBC, it's from the EBU. Presumably the BBC only have a copy with their own commentary on it.


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BillyH1,401 posts since 26 May 2001
London London
Interestingly when the Dutch commentary started, there were a few seconds where the British commentary could be heard as well under it. This ended after about a minute or so.
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TIGHazard764 posts since 3 Jan 2014
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Is YouTube stream got Dutch commentary? How on earth would the BBC have a copy of that?

It's not from the BBC, it's from the EBU. Presumably the BBC only have a copy with their own commentary on it.




Presumably people were confused by the video description

"We are happy to announce that broadcaster BBC has made available the Eurovision Song Contest 1974!"
valley96 posts since 9 Feb 2020
Is YouTube stream got Dutch commentary? How on earth would the BBC have a copy of that?

It's not from the BBC, it's from the EBU. Presumably the BBC only have a copy with their own commentary on it.




Presumably people were confused by the video description

"We are happy to announce that broadcaster BBC has made available the Eurovision Song Contest 1974!"


Which would be a rights-related statement, I imagine?
tightrope781,209 posts since 29 Dec 2005
UTV Newsline
Is YouTube stream got Dutch commentary? How on earth would the BBC have a copy of that?

It's not from the BBC, it's from the EBU. Presumably the BBC only have a copy with their own commentary on it.




Presumably people were confused by the video description

"We are happy to announce that broadcaster BBC has made available the Eurovision Song Contest 1974!"

That’s because the BBC still retain the copyright for the broadcast so their permission will have been required to show it.
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tightrope781,209 posts since 29 Dec 2005
UTV Newsline
I find it interesting that the three acts which seemed to get the most interest online ( Daði og Gagnamagnið for Iceland, Little Big for Russia, and The Roop for Lithuania) are among those not confirmed for next year, though, of course, it's not as though there's not time yet for this to change with a year to go until the 2021 event.


As regards Daði Freyr it has been a bit weird. Originally he said he didn't want to compete in 2021. Under some pressure RÚV offered him the chance to compete in Söngvakeppnin next year but he didn't seem too impressed with. It all got a bit unseemly when on Thursday night, after winning the SVT replacement show, Christer Bjorkman offered him a place in Melodifestivalen next year!
noggin14,932 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I find it interesting that the three acts which seemed to get the most interest online ( Daði og Gagnamagnið for Iceland, Little Big for Russia, and The Roop for Lithuania) are among those not confirmed for next year, though, of course, it's not as though there's not time yet for this to change with a year to go until the 2021 event.


As regards Daði Freyr it has been a bit weird. Originally he said he didn't want to compete in 2021. Under some pressure RÚV offered him the chance to compete in Söngvakeppnin next year but he didn't seem too impressed with. It all got a bit unseemly when on Thursday night, after winning the SVT replacement show, Christer Bjorkman offered him a place in Melodifestivalen next year!


Did Christer offer him a place (i.e. to compete?), or just the opportunity to perform ?
noggin14,932 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Is YouTube stream got Dutch commentary? How on earth would the BBC have a copy of that?

It's not from the BBC, it's from the EBU. Presumably the BBC only have a copy with their own commentary on it.




Presumably people were confused by the video description

"We are happy to announce that broadcaster BBC has made available the Eurovision Song Contest 1974!"


Yes - understandable - but the BBC made it available by granting permission to use it, not necessarily by providing the master tape/file that is used. The rights to all of the contests up until the early 00s remain with the original broadcaster, not the EBU.

A few years ago the EBU requested that all broadcasters submit everything they have in terms of audio and video recordings from previous contests so that they could create a definitive archive of the contest within the EBU.

Most broadcasters won't have archived a clean copy of the contest - they will have recorded their own version complete with commentary.
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IndigoTucker550 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yes the EBU now have rebuilt the archive of Eurovisions for internal use from different broadcasters off-air recordings, even fan recordings, to build as clean a copy as possible from the different sources. They even dubbed the stereo audio over from the FM simulcasts where available.
MrDexB193 posts since 21 Jul 2014
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I find it interesting that the three acts which seemed to get the most interest online ( Daði og Gagnamagnið for Iceland, Little Big for Russia, and The Roop for Lithuania) are among those not confirmed for next year, though, of course, it's not as though there's not time yet for this to change with a year to go until the 2021 event.


As regards Daði Freyr it has been a bit weird. Originally he said he didn't want to compete in 2021. Under some pressure RÚV offered him the chance to compete in Söngvakeppnin next year but he didn't seem too impressed with. It all got a bit unseemly when on Thursday night, after winning the SVT replacement show, Christer Bjorkman offered him a place in Melodifestivalen next year!


Did Christer offer him a place (i.e. to compete?), or just the opportunity to perform ?


Daði is only performing as a guest, after winning Sweden: Sveriges 12:a.
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noggin14,932 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Yes the EBU now have rebuilt the archive of Eurovisions for internal use from different broadcasters off-air recordings, even fan recordings, to build as clean a copy as possible from the different sources.


Why would the broadcaster recordings be off-air? Most UK broadcasters recorded either the output of presentation (the BBC routinely did this for live events) or the output of the studio feeding presentation when making recordings of live shows.

Off-air recording wasn't that common (as it was significantly poorer quality than a baseband recording) - though it was used in some cases I believe.

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They even dubbed the stereo audio over from the FM simulcasts where available.


Yes - I can imagine that if the FM simulcast was stereo but the TV broadcast was mono, then the original VT recording would have been mono (and the radio archive recording stereo).