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Israel - KAN - Tel Aviv - SFs 14, 16 May - Final 18 May - UK - Michael Rice. (May 2018)

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MA
madmusician
But they stopped revealing the SPOTY vote figures last year, didn't they? (The 2017 show being the final one in which they revealed them, I mean - they did not reveal them for the 2018 show)
BM
BM11
But they stopped revealing the SPOTY vote figures last year, didn't they? (The 2017 show being the final one in which they revealed them, I mean - they did not reveal them for the 2018 show)

Correct. Last year was the first Sporty where the results were gagged. The excuse that it protects the celebs and/or judges is used for Strictly but that somehow is not a problem for ITV which release it for Dancing on Ice.
SW
Steve Williams
BM11 posted:
Correct. Last year was the first Sporty where the results were gagged. The excuse that it protects the celebs and/or judges is used for Strictly but that somehow is not a problem for ITV which release it for Dancing on Ice.


But Dancing On Ice is not a very nice programme, the presence of Jason Gardiner illustrates that. I don't know what you gain from finding out who comes bottom on Strictly, it's a bit of harmless light entertainment where people are having a nice time.
BR
Brekkie
It's not about finding out who finished bottom, it's about finding out how the final 4 placed after months of watching them. I suspect the contestants themselves would like to know where they placed as well.

As for Dancing on Ice, it's got plenty of flaws at the moment but Jason Gardener isn't one of them. He's mellowed signficantly and as is usually the case the most critical judge is generally the most constructive too. The only person he ripped into this year was Gemma Collins, and god, she deserved it. And the week after too I think he gave her the highest score of all the judges, so fair's fair.
BM
BM11
I am suprised to be honest that the BBC is not obliged to reveal all voting details where the public may have paid directly to participate
CA
Cando
BM11 posted:
But they stopped revealing the SPOTY vote figures last year, didn't they? (The 2017 show being the final one in which they revealed them, I mean - they did not reveal them for the 2018 show)

Correct. Last year was the first Sporty where the results were gagged. The excuse that it protects the celebs and/or judges is used for Strictly but that somehow is not a problem for ITV which release it for Dancing on Ice.


The only reason ITV figures are released is because of the Soapstar Superstar debacle. Ofcom fined them nearly 6m due to ignoring the public votes most of the series. Pretty sure it was an OFCOM recommendation.
BM
BM11
Cando posted:
BM11 posted:
But they stopped revealing the SPOTY vote figures last year, didn't they? (The 2017 show being the final one in which they revealed them, I mean - they did not reveal them for the 2018 show)

Correct. Last year was the first Sporty where the results were gagged. The excuse that it protects the celebs and/or judges is used for Strictly but that somehow is not a problem for ITV which release it for Dancing on Ice.


The only reason ITV figures are released is because of the Soapstar Superstar debacle. Ofcom fined them nearly 6m due to ignoring the public votes most of the series. Pretty sure it was an OFCOM recommendation.

Should apply to BBC as they didn't escape unscathed from that whole scandel
CA
Cando
BM11 posted:
Cando posted:
BM11 posted:
Correct. Last year was the first Sporty where the results were gagged. The excuse that it protects the celebs and/or judges is used for Strictly but that somehow is not a problem for ITV which release it for Dancing on Ice.


The only reason ITV figures are released is because of the Soapstar Superstar debacle. Ofcom fined them nearly 6m due to ignoring the public votes most of the series. Pretty sure it was an OFCOM recommendation.

Should apply to BBC as they didn't escape unscathed from that whole scandel

I don't think any involved premium rate voting. Ofcom had very little control over BBC regulation at the time anyway.
But the manipulation on SS was extraordinary and many alarm bells were ignored by senior ITV bosses hence the 6m fine and recommendation.
Last edited by Cando on 26 February 2019 11:34pm
UKnews and tightrope78 gave kudos
JM
JamesM0984
BREAKING NEWS: Ukraine will not participate in Tel Aviv, but UA:PBC/NTU will still broadcast the programme. More to follow...

(Story confirmed on UA:PBC's Facebook page.)
DV
DVB Cornwall
Confirmed from EBU ...



JA
JAS84
Good. The reason the acts refused to do it was because they were being forced to act as government mouthpieces and thus refused to sign the contract - quite rightly too. If the broadcaster is trying to involve politics in this, then they should've been kicked out anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47394371
BM
BM11
Confirmed from EBU ...




With Russia likely to be favourite once all the songs are out that is not likely.
I can’t see Ukraine ever returning as they going down the route of banning even the mention of Russia (and the likely new president backs these policies). Sport will be the next issue where it could end up like how Iranians boycot Isreali’s at the olympics for example.
Last edited by BM11 on 28 February 2019 12:47pm

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