DV
Kate Miller Heidke's outfit cost more than the entire Salford show last night (almost) 
RD
The thing is that I reckon the UK could easily do this and the appetite is there. It's just the BBC need to want to do it and spend the money to do it.
Get a medium sized arena (maybe the Birmingham NIA again) and some serious contenders and it could be done.
The UK is the only country to really cling on to Eurovision's past and maintain it as an embarrassment. Other countries like Sweden are able to relish the past but realise the future. But I can't see the BBC has done much at all to change people's perception here, including the show last night.
2009 when Graham joined and Andrew Lloyd-Webber was on board I thought would be the turning point for the UK. But it dwindled extremely rapidly. I would say with UK-European relations the state they are now, we really could do with upping our game and quickly.
Watching Australia's show now, none of the contestants are hugely established artists in Australia, but the songs and the production values are far far superior and quite a few of these songs could be serious contenders to win. It shows it can be done. The UK's efforts this year and in recent years just none of them would even be a contender to win the contest.
Blimey, a few quid's been thrown at this. Fair play to them. Certainly shows the gulf between our show last night. Here the appetite just isn't there to put on this kind of show, is it?
It says something when they can fill a stadium full of Aussie Eurovision fans!
It says something when they can fill a stadium full of Aussie Eurovision fans!
The thing is that I reckon the UK could easily do this and the appetite is there. It's just the BBC need to want to do it and spend the money to do it.
Get a medium sized arena (maybe the Birmingham NIA again) and some serious contenders and it could be done.
The UK is the only country to really cling on to Eurovision's past and maintain it as an embarrassment. Other countries like Sweden are able to relish the past but realise the future. But I can't see the BBC has done much at all to change people's perception here, including the show last night.
2009 when Graham joined and Andrew Lloyd-Webber was on board I thought would be the turning point for the UK. But it dwindled extremely rapidly. I would say with UK-European relations the state they are now, we really could do with upping our game and quickly.
Watching Australia's show now, none of the contestants are hugely established artists in Australia, but the songs and the production values are far far superior and quite a few of these songs could be serious contenders to win. It shows it can be done. The UK's efforts this year and in recent years just none of them would even be a contender to win the contest.
FA
A very good selection of songs overall and something to appeal to everyone. In comparison the UK's selection were all very samey last night. 'On My Way' was most probably my favourite because the catchy nature of it.
I agree RDJ, the 2009 show to find a song or best artist is most probably the best approach. I think it says a lot when our host broadcaster doesn't take it seriously, though at least we are given a say again. One of the best part's of last night's UK selection show was Mån's take on the terrible acts that we've sent recently.
Going back to the Australian selection show, are votes open all the way through the programme rather than not until the last act has performed?
I agree RDJ, the 2009 show to find a song or best artist is most probably the best approach. I think it says a lot when our host broadcaster doesn't take it seriously, though at least we are given a say again. One of the best part's of last night's UK selection show was Mån's take on the terrible acts that we've sent recently.
Going back to the Australian selection show, are votes open all the way through the programme rather than not until the last act has performed?
DV
Opened sometime before the show, maybe days, lines close at end of song 10 plus 15minutes.
BM
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TI
The thing is that I reckon the UK could easily do this and the appetite is there. It's just the BBC need to want to do it and spend the money to do it.
Get a medium sized arena (maybe the Birmingham NIA again) and some serious contenders and it could be done.
The UK is the only country to really cling on to Eurovision's past and maintain it as an embarrassment. Other countries like Sweden are able to relish the past but realise the future. But I can't see the BBC has done much at all to change people's perception here, including the show last night.
2009 when Graham joined and Andrew Lloyd-Webber was on board I thought would be the turning point for the UK. But it dwindled extremely rapidly. I would say with UK-European relations the state they are now, we really could do with upping our game and quickly.
Watching Australia's show now, none of the contestants are hugely established artists in Australia, but the songs and the production values are far far superior and quite a few of these songs could be serious contenders to win. It shows it can be done. The UK's efforts this year and in recent years just none of them would even be a contender to win the contest.
I think that point is what putting the BBC off from spending too much.
Just no! Take your conspiracy theories to the Daily Fail and other fake news outlets!
Blimey, a few quid's been thrown at this. Fair play to them. Certainly shows the gulf between our show last night. Here the appetite just isn't there to put on this kind of show, is it?
It says something when they can fill a stadium full of Aussie Eurovision fans!
It says something when they can fill a stadium full of Aussie Eurovision fans!
The thing is that I reckon the UK could easily do this and the appetite is there. It's just the BBC need to want to do it and spend the money to do it.
Get a medium sized arena (maybe the Birmingham NIA again) and some serious contenders and it could be done.
The UK is the only country to really cling on to Eurovision's past and maintain it as an embarrassment. Other countries like Sweden are able to relish the past but realise the future. But I can't see the BBC has done much at all to change people's perception here, including the show last night.
2009 when Graham joined and Andrew Lloyd-Webber was on board I thought would be the turning point for the UK. But it dwindled extremely rapidly. I would say with UK-European relations the state they are now, we really could do with upping our game and quickly.
Watching Australia's show now, none of the contestants are hugely established artists in Australia, but the songs and the production values are far far superior and quite a few of these songs could be serious contenders to win. It shows it can be done. The UK's efforts this year and in recent years just none of them would even be a contender to win the contest.
I think that point is what putting the BBC off from spending too much.
Just no! Take your conspiracy theories to the Daily Fail and other fake news outlets!
TI
You’ve listed one of the most unreliable, right wing news sources. The entire purpose of the Jewish Chronicle (the clue is in the title) is to promote news about the Jewish religion and the State of Israel and lambast their opponents. It is as unbiased a news source as the National Enquirer!
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/anger-as-good-morning-britain-posts-survey-on-boycotting-israel-eurovision-1.479727
You’ve listed one of the most unreliable, right wing news sources. The entire purpose of the Jewish Chronicle (the clue is in the title) is to promote news about the Jewish religion and the State of Israel and lambast their opponents. It is as unbiased a news source as the National Enquirer!
DV
Kate Miller Heidke wins Australia Decides.
🇦🇺 Kate Miller-Heidke will represent Australia with her song 'Zero Gravity' at Eurovision 2019 in Tel Aviv!#AusDecides @SBSEurovision#DareToDream #Eurovision pic.twitter.com/A90FG0tKvK
— Eurovision Song Contest (@Eurovision) February 9, 2019
JM
JamesM0984
Wow. Australia just laid the smackdown on last night's show. It's like a cross between our approach and Sweden's approach. And it's fab!
What's the smaller venue X Factor do their finals from now they don't use Wembley? Something like that could work, but I still think if it was all seated (Melodifestivalen is, curiously) the BBC could pull it off.
What's the smaller venue X Factor do their finals from now they don't use Wembley? Something like that could work, but I still think if it was all seated (Melodifestivalen is, curiously) the BBC could pull it off.
GO
The X Factor final’s back at Wembley now but in 2017 it was at Excel.
I’ve always thought a cost effective idea would be to hold it on the Sports Personality of the Year stage in the same week that that’s on. Nice way of getting the show on the road each year and gets the BBC more bang for its buck. Granted they’d be selecting the song before the preceding year is over but a handful of countries do that anyway and December’s close enough!
Wow. Australia just laid the smackdown on last night's show. It's like a cross between our approach and Sweden's approach. And it's fab!
What's the smaller venue X Factor do their finals from now they don't use Wembley? Something like that could work, but I still think if it was all seated (Melodifestivalen is, curiously) the BBC could pull it off.
What's the smaller venue X Factor do their finals from now they don't use Wembley? Something like that could work, but I still think if it was all seated (Melodifestivalen is, curiously) the BBC could pull it off.
The X Factor final’s back at Wembley now but in 2017 it was at Excel.
I’ve always thought a cost effective idea would be to hold it on the Sports Personality of the Year stage in the same week that that’s on. Nice way of getting the show on the road each year and gets the BBC more bang for its buck. Granted they’d be selecting the song before the preceding year is over but a handful of countries do that anyway and December’s close enough!
BR
Good to see the SBS show delivered. Obviously one big advantage they have is Eurovision is a way for Aussie acts to break into the European market without spending three years in Neighbours. I've no doubt the BBC could pull off a similar show, and hopefully the bigger the show the better the acts/songs entering the contest would be.
The BBC really need to see Eurovision as a four part series, not a one-off event, with the selection show being episode one.
The BBC really need to see Eurovision as a four part series, not a one-off event, with the selection show being episode one.