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Jon7,871 posts since 11 Apr 2005
Central (West) Midlands Today
I think its time we just pulled not only our participation in Eurovison but all of the cash the BBC put in so we can effectively get a bye as we have not got a hope in hells chance of winning any more, and I am sure all that cash could then be used by the BBC to produce more quality shows here in the UK like Line Of Duty, ect.

Eurovision is doesn’t cost much compared to the likes of Line of Duty, and it does well in the ratings.

We don’t win because we don’t try.
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Lou Scannon, Chyron and scottishtv gave kudos
UKnews830 posts since 26 Apr 2011
I think its time we just pulled not only our participation in Eurovison but all of the cash the BBC put in so we can effectively get a bye as we have not got a hope in hells chance of winning any more, and I am sure all that cash could then be used by the BBC to produce more quality shows here in the UK like Line Of Duty, ect.

Sure, lets get the BBC to stop paying the EBU anything and lose access to the news footage, stand up positions, participation in designing broadcast standards, interchange standards, broadcast co-operation, working committees on all sorts of areas, share of some sports rights, radio programme sharing, set piece events. That'll really be worth it Rolling Eyes

"All the cash' = very little for the song contest itself. Far far less than what would otherwise be on a Saturday night on BBC1 and far more popular.
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mat76, Jeffmister and 3 others
  • Steve Williams
  • Hatton Cross
  • Jon
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noggin14,375 posts since 26 Jun 2001
They don’t even play it on Radio 1 here, never mind top of the charts. I doubt it ever gets mentioned on commercial radio either.


Eurovision is far more Radio 2 than Radio 1. In other countries it is more likely to be linked to their Radio 2 than their Radio 1 equivalents. If you look at what songs have been successful in recent years - they have been far more Radio 2-friendly in UK terms. The same is true elsewhere.

Is it the case abroad though? I do wonder if taking the view it's more Radio 2 than Radio 1 is part of the problem.


It certainly feels that way in Scandinavia. Their Eurovision stuff is definitely on their R2 equivalent not their R1 equivalent. ESC and Melodifestivalen may both be big there, but they are still at the AOR/Cheese end of their musical credibility spectrum... It's certainly not overlapping much with the contemporary youth stations on NRK, SR, DR etc.
noggin14,375 posts since 26 Jun 2001
One valid point that has been made discussing the new way of delivering the televote results (starting at the bottom of the jury leaderboard, rather than delivering televotes from lowest to highest) is that it removes the moment of affirmation from the winner of the televote as they don't know they have won the televote. I absolutely get the reason for the change - and it is great from a TV point of view (though the mechanics of coverage could be better) - but it's not perfect.

Would have been a nice moment for Norway.
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Robert Williams698 posts since 25 Jan 2003
London London
Is this the first time they’ve used a music bed under the results?


They certainly used one last year - but not sure about previously.


The bed's been there since 2017. I recently did some pages summarising Eurovision graphics and presentation over the years (not updated for 2019 yet), starting here: https://www.desandmick.co.uk/television/eurovision/1956-1966/presentation/
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Steve Williams and Josh gave kudos
BillyH1,318 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
A huge benefit this year for those in the audience was that the scoreboard appeared on a big screen behind the presenters - astonishingly that's very rarely been the case in recent years, instead the standing crowd usually have to squint at some tiny screens at the top of the arena which made the voting less enjoyable than if watching at home. There's an amusing moment in the 2007 contest where what sounds like a British woman shouts "WE CAN'T F***ING SEE ANYTHING" during the voting, so presumably it was the case in Helsinki too.

Overall easily the best organised contest since Stockholm, volunteers all around Tel Aviv city helping fans and free shuttle buses taking you to and from the arena. On arriving early to the queue staff gave me a free 1 litre bottle of water, which in 29 degree heat was very appreciated as I waited. Got on camera for about half a second too, although my 30-second appearance in 2016 will remain my all-time highlight!

Concerned already that next year will be nigh on impossible to get tickets for, the close proximity of the Netherlands to the UK, Ireland and France especially will encourage many more to buy tickets than recent years. But at least there's the Eurovision Village if I'm out of luck for the arena, I met a few who watched it there this year and it was still enjoyable.
Member since 26 May 2001
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Josh932 posts since 21 Dec 2014
A huge benefit this year for those in the audience was that the scoreboard appeared on a big screen behind the presenters - astonishingly that's very rarely been the case in recent years, instead the standing crowd usually have to squint at some tiny screens at the top of the arena which made the voting less enjoyable than if watching at home. There's an amusing moment in the 2007 contest where what sounds like a British woman shouts "WE CAN'T F***ING SEE ANYTHING" during the voting, so presumably it was the case in Helsinki too.

Overall easily the best organised contest since Stockholm, volunteers all around Tel Aviv city helping fans and free shuttle buses taking you to and from the arena. On arriving early to the queue staff gave me a free 1 litre bottle of water, which in 29 degree heat was very appreciated as I waited. Got on camera for about half a second too, although my 30-second appearance in 2016 will remain my all-time highlight!

Concerned already that next year will be nigh on impossible to get tickets for, the close proximity of the Netherlands to the UK, Ireland and France especially will encourage many more to buy tickets than recent years. But at least there's the Eurovision Village if I'm out of luck for the arena, I met a few who watched it there this year and it was still enjoyable.

30 seconds in 2016? How did you manage that? (if you mind me asking, of course)
My tweet was read out on BBC Four's Eurovision coverage and Rylan Clark-Neal replied to it. That's all.