Are the BBC going to pull out of the credits early like they always do?
They did, they were definitely still scrolling - and too damn fast to read - when it cut to the Eurovision ident.
Also, the first time I think I've seen a credit squeeze used to show more credits!
The BBC did a push back last year for the BBC credits. Until last year Graham (and Sir Terry before him) used to do a very brief verbal credit for a few key roles, but graphics are a neater way of doing it.
Should we treat it as lightweight fluffy entertainment or a serious song contest? The UK have been accused of treating the contest with contempt in the past, as well as taking it too seriously. We cannot win whichever attitude is taken. But since that Jemini nil points in 2003 something has gone very odd for the UK who used to do remarkably well year after year until that point and after 15 full years of the UK coming mostly in the bottom 5 we have enough contests to wonder at the wider picture and ask just what is really going on.
It's just not acceptable that the nation that has given the world much of the best pop music (along with the USA) over the past 65 years should be humiliated year after year against countries with no past or likely future pedigree to crow about. We are one of the best song countries in the world, not just Europe.
It also seems that the UK does best and wins the thing with groups, so maybe a four piece, two males, two females set up next year with a barnstormingly catchy anthemic chorus.
You could send a reformed One Direction or even Little Mix - wouldn't change the result a jot.
It’s simply not true though. We don’t know how we’d do with that kind of act because A. We have never sent a contemporary act like that. B. It’s just not possible.
Israel is a prime example of what getting the right act that captures something in the imagination can do. Israel aren’t the most politically popular nation in the world they also on the whole perform quite badly most years. Yet this year they won it. We just either try and overthink or underthink it, but something is not right about what we put forward.
I imagine Lithuania vote is probably partly thanks to Lithuanians in the U.K.
I understand the technical and practical reasons for doing the jury vote on the Friday but it does bug me that you’ve got the jury and the telephone voters seeing potentially different final products.
I hadn't heard the UK's entry until yesterday and I don't get the dislike of it, it's one of our best entries for a while. It's certainly one of the few songs that I can actually remember and hum in my head... though maybe that's because it's a bit simple or annoying?
The disconnect generally between jury and televote was amazing. There was a very loud gasp in the room when Sweden’s popular vote came through early, thus ending their chances of winning. Looking at the tables, Sweden were second in the jury vote (253 points) and 23rd in the televote (23 points). Other notable discrepancies: Denmark (Jury 38, Phone 188) Ukraine (Jury 11, Phone 119) Austria (Jury 271 Phone 71).
I’m in two minds about this whole jury/phone thing. It was supposed to bring professional opinion back into the contest after some years of 100% Phone voting. All it’s done as far as I can see is prove that “music professionals” have very different opinions to the viewing public (though that may be partly down to them watching a different performance).
The new voting system has made the contest consistently exciting, if (I suspect) widely misunderstood by the audience.
However,
please
bring back a 15 minute interval. Good grief, it was so dreary last night sitting through 40 minutes of VERY dull, totally forgettable television.
As for the winners and the losers, I cannot believe what won, I just don’t get it. It won’t be going onto my Spotify playlist! I didn’t much like the Cypriot song either. Pleased for Denmark who were rightly promoted by the Phone vote. Thought Australia would do much better, but they were last in the Phone vote, so presumably that means Europe don’t understand why they’re in it? I’m appalled at the stage invasion, and the EBU must surely need to do some serious investigation into how that guy got up on stage.
Anyway. What’s another year?
:-(
A former member
Alot of people win Alot of money from backing that song...
BM
BM11
Has IPBC been given full EBU membership yet? Or is it still on the special agreement mostly just for Eurovision.