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Winner - Israel - KAN - Netta Barzilai 'Toy' (May 2017)

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DV
DVB Cornwall
Unfortunately, the BBC have little experience of doing this kind of show now. I'm struggling to think of anything that compares, week in week out, with what we've seen tonight. Everything they do now is vast external arenas - Glasto, Reading or Leeds for example, or much more intimate studio shows such as SLFN or Later.
BK
bkman1990
We have an Eurovision entry for Ireland who was announced on Friday. It is former RTÉ Fair City actor Ryan O'Shaughnessy.

He will sing his entry which is a ballad called Together. He will sing it in the 1st semi-final on Tuesday May 8th.

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https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2018/0131/937309-ryan-oshaughnessy-is-irelands-eurovision-hopeful/
DE
deejay
Well I for one thought this was the best Eurovision selection show the BBC has done for many many years. There were very few technical flaws, the sound mix was great as far as I could tell, the staging and direction dynamic and the 'experts' nicely briefed. The six acts were credible and the range of music styles provided light and shade. I actually rather like the one night format - and six songs seemed about right. For me, the biggest step up in production might have been the script and the VT inserts - they were witty, nicely made and the right length. Leaving the audience FX up in the mix was a great decision and added atmosphere - which has been strangely lacking in previous years. Above all, a worthy winner, which clearly was the favourite in the Dome. Well done BBC.
NG
noggin Founding member
Leaving the audience FX up in the mix was a great decision and added atmosphere - which has been strangely lacking in previous years.


Yep - Melodifestivalen could learn from that this year. The Mello mix this year has been incredibly lifeless - with close to zero audience effects in the mix (and very quiet ambience in the surrounds) for performances.
AD
adamiow
We have an Eurovision entry for Ireland who was announced on Friday. It is former RTÉ Fair City actor Ryan O'Shaughnessy.


And also from Britain's Got Talent and The Voice Of Ireland.
WI
Wicko
Well I for one thought this was the best Eurovision selection show the BBC has done for many many years. There were very few technical flaws, the sound mix was great as far as I could tell, the staging and direction dynamic and the 'experts' nicely briefed. The six acts were credible and the range of music styles provided light and shade. I actually rather like the one night format - and six songs seemed about right. For me, the biggest step up in production might have been the script and the VT inserts - they were witty, nicely made and the right length. Leaving the audience FX up in the mix was a great decision and added atmosphere - which has been strangely lacking in previous years. Above all, a worthy winner, which clearly was the favourite in the Dome. Well done BBC.


I do agree with all that. However, it will be hard to convince people that it isn't political considering you'd have been led to believe we were finding an entry for the EU rather than the UK. If I was an artist I would have said "This isn't about politics. It's about the UK in Eurovision, which was created to unite us rather than to highlight our political differences. I would have liked to see my country's flag being waved at me instead of a political symbol!"
AN
all new Phil
Wicko posted:
Well I for one thought this was the best Eurovision selection show the BBC has done for many many years. There were very few technical flaws, the sound mix was great as far as I could tell, the staging and direction dynamic and the 'experts' nicely briefed. The six acts were credible and the range of music styles provided light and shade. I actually rather like the one night format - and six songs seemed about right. For me, the biggest step up in production might have been the script and the VT inserts - they were witty, nicely made and the right length. Leaving the audience FX up in the mix was a great decision and added atmosphere - which has been strangely lacking in previous years. Above all, a worthy winner, which clearly was the favourite in the Dome. Well done BBC.


I do agree with all that. However, it will be hard to convince people that it isn't political considering you'd have been led to believe we were finding an entry for the EU rather than the UK. If I was an artist I would have said "This isn't about politics. It's about the UK in Eurovision, which was created to unite us rather than to highlight our political differences. I would have liked to see my country's flag being waved at me instead of a political symbol!"

What on earth are you prattling on about?
WI
Wicko
Wicko posted:
Well I for one thought this was the best Eurovision selection show the BBC has done for many many years. There were very few technical flaws, the sound mix was great as far as I could tell, the staging and direction dynamic and the 'experts' nicely briefed. The six acts were credible and the range of music styles provided light and shade. I actually rather like the one night format - and six songs seemed about right. For me, the biggest step up in production might have been the script and the VT inserts - they were witty, nicely made and the right length. Leaving the audience FX up in the mix was a great decision and added atmosphere - which has been strangely lacking in previous years. Above all, a worthy winner, which clearly was the favourite in the Dome. Well done BBC.


I do agree with all that. However, it will be hard to convince people that it isn't political considering you'd have been led to believe we were finding an entry for the EU rather than the UK. If I was an artist I would have said "This isn't about politics. It's about the UK in Eurovision, which was created to unite us rather than to highlight our political differences. I would have liked to see my country's flag being waved at me instead of a political symbol!"

What on earth are you prattling on about?


So, you did not notice the masses of EU flags in the audience and the tiny amount of Union Flags? The BBC made it political when they keep telling us it isn't.
AG
AxG
Wicko posted:
Wicko posted:

I do agree with all that. However, it will be hard to convince people that it isn't political considering you'd have been led to believe we were finding an entry for the EU rather than the UK. If I was an artist I would have said "This isn't about politics. It's about the UK in Eurovision, which was created to unite us rather than to highlight our political differences. I would have liked to see my country's flag being waved at me instead of a political symbol!"

What on earth are you prattling on about?


So, you did not notice the masses of EU flags in the audience and the tiny amount of Union Flags? The BBC made it political when they keep telling us it isn't.

The EU flags were handed out to people going into the Dome from a remain campaign group, that is what I heard from members of DS who attended.
https://www.facebook.com/EuroVisionaryOfficial/photos/a.10151014474539676.537489.12572584675/10157139137484676/?type=3&theater
JA
james-2001
Wicko posted:
So, you did not notice the masses of EU flags in the audience and the tiny amount of Union Flags? The BBC made it political when they keep telling us it isn't.

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WI
Wicko
AxG posted:
Wicko posted:
What on earth are you prattling on about?


So, you did not notice the masses of EU flags in the audience and the tiny amount of Union Flags? The BBC made it political when they keep telling us it isn't.

The EU flags were handed out to people going into the Dome from a remain campaign group, that is what I heard from members of DS who attended.
https://www.facebook.com/EuroVisionaryOfficial/photos/a.10151014474539676.537489.12572584675/10157139137484676/?type=3&theater



I'd have told them to do one! That's two things now I probably won't watch again. This and Last Night of the Proms. The BBC need to be more strict on flags. National flags (including those of EU countries) perfectly acceptable, political symbols not so. What if Britain First or "Leave Means Leave" waved banners? I'd dare say the BBC would not allow those.,
VM
VMPhil
You're going to stop watching a programme because you don't like the flags in the audience?

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