RS
Rob_Schneider
According to Ukraine Today SVT spent around €14.5m on this year's show. The Culture Ministry believes this is a realistic figure for next year with help from sponsorship, and hinted that SVT actually made a
profit
on hosting the show.
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
GM
Because they are care about hosting and producing a decent show? In fact, just let SVT do it every year and I would be happy with that.
According to Ukraine Today SVT spent around €14.5m on this year's show. The Culture Ministry believes this is a realistic figure for next year with help from sponsorship, and hinted that SVT actually made a
profit
on hosting the show.
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
Because they are care about hosting and producing a decent show? In fact, just let SVT do it every year and I would be happy with that.
RS
Rob_Schneider
According to Ukraine Today SVT spent around €14.5m on this year's show. The Culture Ministry believes this is a realistic figure for next year with help from sponsorship, and hinted that SVT actually made a
profit
on hosting the show.
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
I've used Tightrope78's post in the 2016 thread which published the costs of contests in US dollars and converted to EUR.
Baku 2012 (İTV) = €58m
Malmö 2013 (SVT) = €17m
Copenhagen 2014 (DR) = €47m
Stockholm 2016 (SVT) = €14.5m
I've no data for others, but would be interested to know how much 2010, 2011 and 2015 cost. ORF's production was particularly austere I felt.
So the 2016 show was the cheapest production, despite arguably being the strongest of those four! I can only assume that the high costs in 2012 and 2014 were down to the building (or in DR's case, conversion of) bespoke venues. The bottom line is SVT have shown now - twice - that they can put on a world class production for, in relative terms, peanuts. What are they doing right?
Because they are care about hosting and producing a decent show? In fact, just let SVT do it every year and I would be happy with that.
But they produce the best shows on the smallest budgets. Baku cost a bomb, and whilst visually it was good the production was dogs**t. Completely devoid of any humour and hosts who looked like they might be shot if they screwed it up. At least Copenhagen was a good show. Even Dusseldorf was excellent and really tried hard to smash the stereotypes of Germany.
RS
Rob_Schneider
Yeah but there's cultural differences and there's the secret lovechild of Rome and Millstreet I fear we will see next May...
TI
SVT are able to produce such cost efficient productions for many reasons. Melodifestivalen is a bigger production than Eurovision therefore they will have everything down to a fine detail. In 2015 ORF gave us a 20 minute opening that didn’t say much. This year SVT gave us a stunning nine minute opener and then it was straight into the songs. SVT work well with the fans. By opening up EuroClub to all OGAE accredited fans this was a clever way of generating extra revenue, ensuring a lot of fan expenditure stayed within the official circles and generated a lot of goodwill.
You can already see a real disparity between what the head of NTU (broadcaster) is saying and the scope and ambition of the city representatives of the bidding cities. NTU are clearly looking at a low cost event, with no infrastructure costs. Even if they do a very low cost production I think it will be difficult for them to bring it in under 2013 & 2016. On the other hand the mayor of Kiev is talking about putting a roof on the Olympic Stadium and having an audience of 50,000+ for the shows! Nothing kills atmosphere like a stadium production. It lacks atmosphere on television and also for the live audience.
I would have no fears about the quality of the production. As has been said you need an occasionally less polished production to really appreciate the great ones! And as for the dig at Millstreet, that’s a load of crap! At the time it was the most successful contest ever staged, it had the most impressive stage and in Fionnuala Sweeney one of the best hostesses ever. And that doesn’t even touch on the voting sequence which is IMO still the best one ever. Ah the glory days of telling phone lines going down!! Yeah Rome was bad but that was over 25 years ago, get over it!!
You can already see a real disparity between what the head of NTU (broadcaster) is saying and the scope and ambition of the city representatives of the bidding cities. NTU are clearly looking at a low cost event, with no infrastructure costs. Even if they do a very low cost production I think it will be difficult for them to bring it in under 2013 & 2016. On the other hand the mayor of Kiev is talking about putting a roof on the Olympic Stadium and having an audience of 50,000+ for the shows! Nothing kills atmosphere like a stadium production. It lacks atmosphere on television and also for the live audience.
I would have no fears about the quality of the production. As has been said you need an occasionally less polished production to really appreciate the great ones! And as for the dig at Millstreet, that’s a load of crap! At the time it was the most successful contest ever staged, it had the most impressive stage and in Fionnuala Sweeney one of the best hostesses ever. And that doesn’t even touch on the voting sequence which is IMO still the best one ever. Ah the glory days of telling phone lines going down!! Yeah Rome was bad but that was over 25 years ago, get over it!!
TI
Helena also represented Greece as part of the group Antique in 2001. (That performance also included Shirley Clamp, a Melodifestivalen stalwart, as a backing singer.)
If you look at the Swedish influence on many songs this year (whether through production, backing singers, composers etc.) you'll see it's pretty major.
Thomas G:Son (Swedish composer) was certainly there this year with both Georgia and Cyprus (interestingly the two most frenetic songs IMO) in the final. (He was involved with Georgia and Spain's entries last year...)
...And interestingly won by a Swedish singer (with Greek parents). Helena Paparizou has continued to have a very successful career in Sweden and has attempted to represent Sweden in 2014. (With a very decent song IMO.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omXFlOI9Gqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omXFlOI9Gqc
Helena also represented Greece as part of the group Antique in 2001. (That performance also included Shirley Clamp, a Melodifestivalen stalwart, as a backing singer.)
If you look at the Swedish influence on many songs this year (whether through production, backing singers, composers etc.) you'll see it's pretty major.
Thomas G:Son (Swedish composer) was certainly there this year with both Georgia and Cyprus (interestingly the two most frenetic songs IMO) in the final. (He was involved with Georgia and Spain's entries last year...)
Sweden has been involved in a total of 17 songs in this years #Eurovision including songwriters, dancers, singers and choreographers #ESC
— Sweden.se (@swedense) May 13, 2016