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sigma421125 posts since 12 Feb 2013
Granada North West Today
Can someone explain why the number of British nationals voting is pretty low compared to others nationals who live in the uk who do vote. There claim we like it but we don't vote?

The UK only vote via a phone line.

Presumably the other countries add both telephone and text voting in to the final figures.


App voting is also a major difference. The UK version of the app votes via dialling the mobile phone shortcode. AIUI the app in other countries uses IP voting - which could be zero cost. (AIUI there are good governance reasons why the BBC only allow phone voting.)

It may well have changed but when I was in Austria in 2013 the app voting just triggered a (fairly steeply priced) SMS message.
Gary McEwan2,940 posts since 23 May 2011
STV Central Reporting Scotland
The UK only vote via a phone line.

Presumably the other countries add both telephone and text voting in to the final figures.


App voting is also a major difference. The UK version of the app votes via dialling the mobile phone shortcode. AIUI the app in other countries uses IP voting - which could be zero cost. (AIUI there are good governance reasons why the BBC only allow phone voting.)

It may well have changed but when I was in Austria in 2013 the app voting just triggered a (fairly steeply priced) SMS message.


The app sends send a text everywhere else, but in the UK it calls the mobile shortcode as it always has done.
thegeek4,018 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London
As can be seen from the Blue Peter behind the scenes filming, the BBC were at IMG Studios. Which specialise in sport production (big galleries, small studios) and are a very good fit for the Eurovision Song Contest. The other facility that would make sense is Timeline in Stratford (which BT Sport use)

Incidentally, the other big Eurovision programme which gets shown on the BBC - the New Year's Day Concert from Vienna - goes through a BT Sport gallery, to have the BBC commentary added to the incoming 5.1 mix. It's not got quite as big a production team, but still uses a similarly-sized gallery.
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Markymark4,537 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
The UK only vote via a phone line.

Presumably the other countries add both telephone and text voting in to the final figures.


App voting is also a major difference. The UK version of the app votes via dialling the mobile phone shortcode. AIUI the app in other countries uses IP voting - which could be zero cost. (AIUI there are good governance reasons why the BBC only allow phone voting.)

It may well have changed but when I was in Austria in 2013 the app voting just triggered a (fairly steeply priced) SMS message.


Steep for locals, or steep for you as a roamer ? ( Yes, I know by 2013 the EU rulings about roaming were starting the drive the cost down)
bilky asko4,562 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Yes. I don't mind people living elsewhere voting for the own country but when forgien nationals are making more of an effort to vote it just makes me wonder why the UK public aren't as engage? What are the numbers? Are there even released?


The public are engaged. It's the BBC that won't allow viewers to vote by text. Instead they allow mobile viewer to call the shortcode, which on some networks don't even work or when they do they are limited to the amount of calls they can make.


Which networks don't they work on? The numbers work on every major mainland UK network.
steddenm1,296 posts since 11 Oct 2004
Central (West) Midlands Today
Yes. I don't mind people living elsewhere voting for the own country but when forgien nationals are making more of an effort to vote it just makes me wonder why the UK public aren't as engage? What are the numbers? Are there even released?


The public are engaged. It's the BBC that won't allow viewers to vote by text. Instead they allow mobile viewer to call the shortcode, which on some networks don't even work or when they do they are limited to the amount of calls they can make.


Which networks don't they work on? The numbers work on every major mainland UK network.


The shortcodes don't work on "virtual operators" (Virgin, Tesco, GiffGaff, BT Mobile etc) nor on operators in the Isle of Man, Channel Islands or via Maritime Networks.

They only work on the big four operators - O2, Vodafone, EE and 3.
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Gary McEwan2,940 posts since 23 May 2011
STV Central Reporting Scotland

The public are engaged. It's the BBC that won't allow viewers to vote by text. Instead they allow mobile viewer to call the shortcode, which on some networks don't even work or when they do they are limited to the amount of calls they can make.


Which networks don't they work on? The numbers work on every major mainland UK network.


The shortcodes don't work on "virtual operators" (Virgin, Tesco, GiffGaff, BT Mobile etc) nor on operators in the Isle of Man, Channel Islands or via Maritime Networks.

They only work on the big four operators - O2, Vodafone, EE and 3.


Three are the problem child. I know this first hand as my other half is a manager there. It's something to do with BT limiting the amount of calls a Three customer can make when dialling the shortcode. Sometimes it will let you through and other times it won't, and it's nothing to do with the lines being busy.

It was the the same last year, as we couldn't get through to vote on the shortcode.