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10th, 12th and 14th May 2016 - Globen Stockholm - UK rep. Joe and Jake: You're Not Alone (March 2015)

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WW
WW Update
Yep... I did. And I think it's ARD in Germany anyway!


Right, Germany's RTL isn't an EBU member anyway. (Of RTL Group's many TV operations across Europe, only the original Luxembourg RTL is a member because it also happens to be that country's public-service broadcaster.)
Last edited by WW Update on 15 May 2016 10:33pm
AG
AxG
Apparently Logo couldn't broadcast JT, and showed the SF1 interval The Grey People.
LL
London Lite Founding member
AxG posted:
Apparently Logo couldn't broadcast JT, and showed the SF1 interval The Grey People.


A rights issue according to an American friend.
RS
Rob_Schneider
The UK always votes for Poland. Can't think why.
JO
Jon
You would notice that. Can't think why.
dosxuk and scottishtv gave kudos
JO
Jon
AxG posted:
Apparently Logo couldn't broadcast JT, and showed the SF1 interval The Grey People.


A rights issue according to an American friend.

The only thing I can think of would be another network having exclusivity on a debut performance. Find it a bit strange though.
NG
noggin Founding member
Jon posted:
AxG posted:
Apparently Logo couldn't broadcast JT, and showed the SF1 interval The Grey People.


A rights issue according to an American friend.

The only thing I can think of would be another network having exclusivity on a debut performance. Find it a bit strange though.


Could be that the ESC only had rights for EBU members - suspect Logo are not EBU members and bought the show separately ?

Suspect the Justin Timberlake performance was not covered under a sub-licence.

AIUI the SF1 interval act 'The Grey People' (not shown in the UK as BBC Four had opted out) was used to replace Justin Timberlake for US viewers (and was played out from Sweden to the US as a replacement - rather than Logo replacing it)
NG
noggin Founding member
Apparently - if the maths of last year (where countries ranked jury votes and phone votes separately then added them together and then delivered the 1-8/10/12 based on the combined rankings) were used then Australia would have won, Ukraine would have come second, Russia third.

Poland would have done worse, and the UK would have been a couple of places higher.

Haven't done the maths myself so this may be rubbish - but the total separation of jury and phone/app/text votes is possibly a bit more similar (though still not identical as it is more granular) to the original system we had when juries were first reintroduced and the two votes were 1-8/10/12 ranked only then added together to generate a further 1-8/10/12.
ST
Stedixon
Apparently - if the maths of last year (where countries ranked jury votes and phone votes separately then added them together and then delivered the 1-8/10/12 based on the combined rankings) were used then Australia would have won, Ukraine would have come second, Russia third.

Poland would have done worse, and the UK would have been a couple of places higher.

Haven't done the maths myself so this may be rubbish - but the total separation of jury and phone/app/text votes is possibly a bit more similar (though still not identical as it is more granular) to the original system we had when juries were first reintroduced and the two votes were 1-8/10/12 ranked only then added together to generate a further 1-8/10/12.


Go back a few pages and that has already been done and we came off better now than when the old system was used.
ST
Stedixon
Well I loved the whole flipping lot of it. SVT crew can do no wrong in my eyes and should always be the default hosting lol. Staging and presentation was great and entertaining. Well done to Petra (love that woman) Mans (better than I expected, he usually makes me cringe when presenting) and Sarah as Lynda. As a regular viewer of Melodifestivalen, I loved the changed voting system and think it worked really well and should be kept. It's just the interval that needs shortening a little. Shame it's not in Sweden again next year.
NG
noggin Founding member
Apparently - if the maths of last year (where countries ranked jury votes and phone votes separately then added them together and then delivered the 1-8/10/12 based on the combined rankings) were used then Australia would have won, Ukraine would have come second, Russia third.

Poland would have done worse, and the UK would have been a couple of places higher.

Haven't done the maths myself so this may be rubbish - but the total separation of jury and phone/app/text votes is possibly a bit more similar (though still not identical as it is more granular) to the original system we had when juries were first reintroduced and the two votes were 1-8/10/12 ranked only then added together to generate a further 1-8/10/12.


Go back a few pages and that has already been done and we came off better now than when the old system was used.


Err - the posts a few pages back suggest the opposite and match the one's I'd seen - we'd have finished a couple of places higher with the previous system. (Obviously there were twice as many points available with the new system as each country gives twice the number compared to the old system)
DE
deejay
The only bad things about the new voting procedure for me were:
- the overall televote window was far too long. 40 minutes?! Lots of filler material.
- no idea nationally who we had voted for until graham explained. Did every country do that? I felt that was a huge part of the charm of the contest gone in a stroke
- I wish the spokespersons still gave the 8 and 10 marks out

I loved the suspense of the end sequence though. I do feel it'll take some getting used to, I'm not sure everyone understood what was going on or why and how some countries leapfrogged up the board.

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