DV
Sorry, that we HAD to rush things a bit at the end. At least there are no complaints we dragged the tension too far! ;) #eurovision
— ESC2015 CreativeProd (@ESC2015CP) May 19, 2015
RS
Rob_Schneider
In ORF's defence they may have needed extra time to collate the results, something DR were painfully caught with their pants down on last year.
NG
Or things changed and the BBC opt-ed back to the contest earlier than planned. (They didn't take the full commercial break at the end)
And believe me - this year, you aren't missing much by not seeing the ORF VTs. It's like they watched SVT's and DR's shows, and totally missed the humour...
noggin
Founding member
So, the main EBU feed is doing a Guy Sebastian interview (albeit with that hint talking all over it) after the BBC did one in the opt outs. They've not thought this through.
Or things changed and the BBC opt-ed back to the contest earlier than planned. (They didn't take the full commercial break at the end)
And believe me - this year, you aren't missing much by not seeing the ORF VTs. It's like they watched SVT's and DR's shows, and totally missed the humour...
RS
Rob_Schneider
As I say, the BBC should let the feed run and then do thesecond extra segments in an Xtra Factor style show straight after in the EastEnders slot. Bring back Liquid Eurovision I say!
Last edited by Rob_Schneider on 19 May 2015 11:30pm
NG
They are using CuePilot automatic vision mixing driven by the timecode of the backing track (as DR did last year, and as Melodifestivalen has for the last two years). That means the cut happens where the director wants it, precisely down to the frame. If they enter the wrong cut point, it will consistently happen off the beat...
Or they may have had to ditch CuePilot and go manual for some of them? It was very ragged in places.
noggin
Founding member
Really not a fan of the direction this year. And when they do go from a decent shot to another, its not cutting in time to the music.
And why is every song lit in white?
And why is every song lit in white?
They are using CuePilot automatic vision mixing driven by the timecode of the backing track (as DR did last year, and as Melodifestivalen has for the last two years). That means the cut happens where the director wants it, precisely down to the frame. If they enter the wrong cut point, it will consistently happen off the beat...
Or they may have had to ditch CuePilot and go manual for some of them? It was very ragged in places.
RS
Rob_Schneider
Do you think the BBC have put out enough flashing images warnings? #sarcasm
Do you think Ofcom rules are optional?
But it was overkill! It's a live music show. If you know flashing will harm you then surely you know not to watch it?
NG
Do you think Ofcom rules are optional?
But it was overkill! It's a live music show. If you know flashing will harm you then surely you know not to watch it?
The issue is that not everyone sees the warning at the top of the show, and people surf through, so broadcasters have to warn close to an offending sequence (which is why the News say it going into a report, and ITN put a strap up), particularly when it is a long show, and when it is a major failure.
The BBC internal guidance on this, and the Ofcom rules, are pretty clear.
Most broadcasters will run the dress rehearsal of a show through a Harding, and will modify the content to avoid needing to apologise (by stopping it failing). The BBC can't do this with Eurovision, so have to warn instead.
noggin
Founding member
Do you think the BBC have put out enough flashing images warnings? #sarcasm
Do you think Ofcom rules are optional?
But it was overkill! It's a live music show. If you know flashing will harm you then surely you know not to watch it?
The issue is that not everyone sees the warning at the top of the show, and people surf through, so broadcasters have to warn close to an offending sequence (which is why the News say it going into a report, and ITN put a strap up), particularly when it is a long show, and when it is a major failure.
The BBC internal guidance on this, and the Ofcom rules, are pretty clear.
Most broadcasters will run the dress rehearsal of a show through a Harding, and will modify the content to avoid needing to apologise (by stopping it failing). The BBC can't do this with Eurovision, so have to warn instead.