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GO
gottago
Another year, another dire Irish production. It is actually identical in every way to last year's show aside from the artists, guests and (I think) the tiny stage. Same crap mentor idea that they don't bother making the most of, exactly the same boring chat about Eurovision, identical appalling graphics.

Not to mention a pile of god-awful songs.
SR
SomeRandomStuff
Another year, another dire Irish production. It is actually identical in every way to last year's show aside from the artists, guests and (I think) the tiny stage. Same crap mentor idea that they don't bother making the most of, exactly the same boring chat about Eurovision, identical appalling graphics.

Not to mention a pile of god-awful songs.


I thought I'd give it a look on the RTÉ website, and I have to agree with you on all points.

I'm also betting that the winner will be identical in every way to last year.

EDIT: No surprise there... the annoying twins are to represent Ireland.
Last edited by SomeRandomStuff on 24 February 2012 11:31pm
GM
Gary McEwan
And its Jedward yet again that are representing Ireland at this year's Eurovision with a track called Waterline....

Whats the chances of them beating the UK again this year?
DA
davidmcg
And its Jedward yet again that are representing Ireland at this year's Eurovision with a track called Waterline....

Whats the chances of them beating the UK again this year?


High, given their new European fanbase I'd say even with a poorer song they'll do just as well if not better, sadly.
DE
deejay
It hasn't got the immediately catchy hook that Lipstick had though IMO. Lipstick worked because you could 'sing' along to it after hearing it only once (which some of the Eurovision audience/voters only get the chance to do, those in countries like the UK where Eurovision no longer gets the promotion and previews that it gets elsewhere for instance). Waterline I find rather ... meh. Still, it's good to see Ireland send someone "with it" to the show. As for the UK, there have been a few tweets from @bbceurovision recently indicating that there'll be some news on UK representation "soon"...
BA
bilky asko
It hasn't got the immediately catchy hook that Lipstick had though IMO. Lipstick worked because you could 'sing' along to it after hearing it only once (which some of the Eurovision audience/voters only get the chance to do, those in countries like the UK where Eurovision no longer gets the promotion and previews that it gets elsewhere for instance). Waterline I find rather ... meh. Still, it's good to see Ireland send someone "with it" to the show. As for the UK, there have been a few tweets from @bbceurovision recently indicating that there'll be some news on UK representation "soon"...


Let's send Brian Blessed. He would organise everything - the song, the choreography, the lighting - the lot. He could shout Jedward to death at the soonest possible opportunity on the night.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Some ghastly suggestion in today's Star suggesting that the BBC 'might' have opted for Atomic Kitten as the UK's artists for 2012.

The story has been picked up by the contest news site now ....


see here ……..

WWW.EUROVISION.TV
26-Feb-2012 @ 00:22
Last edited by DVB Cornwall on 26 February 2012 12:22am
EO
eoin
Another year, another dire Irish production. It is actually identical in every way to last year's show aside from the artists, guests and (I think) the tiny stage. Same crap mentor idea that they don't bother making the most of, exactly the same boring chat about Eurovision, identical appalling graphics.

Not to mention a pile of god-awful songs.


It was appallingly produced and dull as dishwater. What was most irritating about this was that someone had clearly had some ideas about giving the selection process some sort of sense of occasion. There was a green room of sorts, spokespersons for regional juries and yes, the mentor thing, which could have worked if we'd been given some background info on the song, the writer and how they'd found the singer, perhaps in the form of a VT. Some reason to actually care about who this person was, or at least keep things visually interesting, rather than just plonking them on the edge of the audience and having Ryan Tubridy stand over them with a mic.

The green room was on screen for about 1 minute in total I'd say. Maybe those presenters who were employed to stand in front of a green screen pretending to be in different cities might have been better utilised in actually chatting to the acts. Their presentation of the jury results, despite being delivered seemingly at lightning-speed, lacked any pace or excitement. The little elements where someone had at least made a half-arsed attempt to make things exciting, like Jedward's lap of honour from the green room to the studio, jarred with and were undermined by the lacklustre feel to the whole evening.

The production of the actual performances themselves was so dreadful that the talking heads actually said so on several occasions, to a response from Tubridy along the lines of "that's easily fixed for the real thing". Really, it shouldn't have to be. And speaking of those talking heads, their presence was entirely superfluous and the fact that they were merely filling time between acts was far too obvious. Not to mention the same, year-after-year cliches about "the glory years", the obligatory VT of the seven previous winners (last one 16 years ago) and the platitudes of "wouldn't it be great to recapture that spirit", when the level of effort put into this thing demonstrates that RTÉ clearly has no interest in recapturing anything.

I still don't understand why this has been rolled into the Late Late Show. Despite claims to the contrary, a lot of people in Ireland actually still care about the Eurovision. The national song contest is pretty much guaranteed good ratings and giving it its own dedicated studio production, broadcast on a Thursday or Saturday night would I'd imagine be a relatively cheap hour-and-a-half of television, given the relative size of the audience. Times are tough in Ireland, and I'm sure that's having a knock-on effect on RTÉ, but there are ways around it. Product Placement is allowed now, a heavily sponsor-branded show with some half-decent production would be a huge improvement on what we've got.

Maybe it's a sense that there's not too much point in bothering to put much effort into what is essentially a Jedward-rubberstamping event. But I suspect that even without the Jedward-factor, RTÉ just wouldn't have bothered anyway.
CY
cylon6
Some ghastly suggestion in today's Star suggesting that the BBC 'might' have opted for Atomic Kitten as the UK's artists for 2012.

The story has been picked up by the contest news site now ....


see here ……..

WWW.EUROVISION.TV
26-Feb-2012 @ 00:22


Is that really a possibility or just speculation?
AG
AxG
@LizMcClarnon tweets: 'Wow #atomickitten trending in 2012, Amazing!! I love rumours .... Xx'
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SR
SomeRandomStuff
RTÉ most probably cant afford anything grander, and the reason why they are making next to no effort is they would probably not be able to host the event if they won.

IIRC, Norwegian broadcaster NRK had to drop a lot of its sports coverage to meet the bill in 2010.

Put it this way, if the UK had won last year, it would not only have had to cover the Olympics, Diamond Jubilee, its usual sporting events, but eurovision as well? Can it really be justified when vast suathes of the country really don't care whether we win or lose?

If our entry is Atomic Kitten, we will more than likely lose again, and the BBC will be happy about that as they wont have to fill the gap in their ever dwindling budget.

Oddly in the case of Ireland this year, if Jedwards popularity is as big as they say it is in Europe, they stand a very good chance of winning, even with a mediocre song.
TT
Tumble Tower
I think time is long overdue to end the tradition that whichever country wins the Eurovision Song Contest hosts it the following year.

Wind back to the 1990s. Ireland won in 1992, and hence hosted it in 1993 from Millstreet.
Ireland won again in 1993, and hence hosted it in 1994 from Dublin.

In 1994, Ireland entered "Rock 'n' Roll Kids" sung by Paul Harrington and Charlie McGettigan. It was a ballad, one member of the duo played the grand piano, the other played the guitar, and the orchestra was not used. Basically it wasn't expected to win, and was even rumoured to be "a subtle attempt not to win". Yet it won big, a record breaking 226 points, and Ireland ended up hosting the ESC in Dublin again in 1995.

Why didn't the EBU excuse RTE from hosting the 1995 ESC, and offer Poland (who came 2nd in 1994) the chance to host the 1995 contest? I don't think it was fair to expect Ireland to host the Contest 3 years running.

In 1995 Ireland entered "Dreamin'" sung by Eddie Friel, which finished 14th with 44 points. Well that was no surprise, the song itself was, in my opinion, downright boring. I've often wondered if RTE deliberately picked that as suicide song, i.e. a desperate attempt to come last with nul points and get relegated for a year. Whether or not that's the case will probably never be known.

In 1996 Ireland won for the fourth time in 5 years, and hence in hosted it for the 4th time in 5 years in 1997.

Contrary to any rumours that may have been circulating by the late 1990s, I think Ireland were grateful and proud to have won 4 times in 5 years, but were getting fed up with footing the bill for hosting it so often.

Since then, looking back at host entries on YouTube, it's obvious that some countries haven't wanted to enter 2 years on the trot, e.g. the below par song Sweden entered in 2000, and the downright annoying protest chant "Razom Nas Bahato" Ukraine entered in 2005.

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