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Eurovision 2012 - 22/24/26 May 2012

Azerbaijan - Winner - Sweden - Loreen 'Euphoria' (May 2011)

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VM
VMPhil
The whole point of watching Eurovision is for the cheesy and silly songs and dance routines.

It's not just us, look at what Russia offered up. And the rest of Europe didn't mind either, seeing as they came second place.

Taking Eurovision seriously is not a good idea, in fact it'll probably just make it feel more like a joke.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Your view.... which is NOT the view of the reset of the continent.

Why do so many countries spend hours selecting their entrant? It's not light entertainment, it's serious business.

Austria are the proof to that this year, they thought lets abuse the national selection and win and go on to do the same in the final, they did the former, but crashed and burned ispectacularly n Baku.

The Russian Grannies are an established act and are not 'a joke'. It's time for the BBC to change and adopt a similar attitude.
VM
VMPhil
It's too late to change people's perception, IMO.
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A former member
My mates only watch it for Graham/Terrys comments and the bizarre songs like Russia. why do yo think there is so many EU parties and people dress up: UK has comes second 15 times, but there was always something missing, just because there were the best on the night does mean nothing. I believe both had something..

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MA
Markymark

There's certainly a chunk of money involved - but producing so many hours of primetime TV is always going to have a cost to it. Whether its value for money is going to have strong arguments on both sides.


According to a FOI request, it's about 300k !!!

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/classes/disclosure_logs/rfi20110023_payments_to-_ebu.pdf

That works out, including the semifinals at about 33k/hr.

I should think only the Jeremy Kyle Show is cheaper !!

Seriously though, there will be other costs, but it remains highly cost effective entertainment (as long as you're not hosting it).
GO
gottago
Your view.... which is NOT the view of the reset of the continent.

Why do so many countries spend hours selecting their entrant? It's not light entertainment, it's serious business.

Austria are the proof to that this year, they thought lets abuse the national selection and win and go on to do the same in the final, they did the former, but crashed and burned ispectacularly n Baku.

The Russian Grannies are an established act and are not 'a joke'. It's time for the BBC to change and adopt a similar attitude.


Sweden take the selection process of the contest the most seriously but as has been said on this thread the Swedish commentary during the contest itself is lighthearted. The Russian Grannies certainly were a joke. A very sweet and catchy joke and well deserving of second place, but a joke none the less. It's all part of the fun of Eurovision and I think the Graham's commentary is perfect for the show. It was Wogan who would refuse point-blank to accept that any of that contemporary songs could do well, slagging them all off and supporting the drearyest of ballads. IMO that's what gave Eurovision the bad name its got today, coupled with the decline in the BBC's efforts to find a decent entry. I think we just need a genuinely brilliant entry that everyone loves and will do well in both the charts and the contest to shake off Wogan's legacy.

Speaking of the charts, Loreen is currently at one on iTunes as is likely to named number one on the commercial radio top 40.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member

There's certainly a chunk of money involved - but producing so many hours of primetime TV is always going to have a cost to it. Whether its value for money is going to have strong arguments on both sides.


According to a FOI request, it's about 300k !!!

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/classes/disclosure_logs/rfi20110023_payments_to-_ebu.pdf

That works out, including the semifinals at about 33k/hr.

I should think only the Jeremy Kyle Show is cheaper !!

Seriously though, there will be other costs, but it remains highly cost effective entertainment (as long as you're not hosting it).


God that is cheap!
DA
David
The Russian Grannies are an established act and are not 'a joke'. It's time for the BBC to change and adopt a similar attitude.


For the benefit of who?
BR
Brekkie
So had Engelburt had another five grandads on stage he might have stood a chance?

I've a horrible feeling it might be more of the same next year but with Tom Jones instead.
JO
Jon
So had Engelburt had another five grandads on stage he might have stood a chance?

I've a horrible feeling it might be more of the same next year but with Tom Jones instead.

I doubt after Englebert's performance they're hardly going to get Tom Jones to go.
TC
TonyCurrie
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JT
jolly turnip
Like it Tony

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