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JO
Jon
Actually I think the best way for us to have a chance now is for someone other than the BBC to take charge of the selection process as I think they'd make a real effort of it (in the first year at least), so I guess the only way for that to happen would be for the BBC to drop out and inevitably one of the other PSBs pick it up as a result.

I'd rather have no adverts in the broadcast of the final than win.
DV
DVB Cornwall
.... ditto
BR
Brekkie
Well there are limits on the adverts that any broadcaster could show (were probably just about 4 or 5 one-minute opt outs tonight), and that is why I think any commercial broadcaster taking it on would need to make a big thing of the selection to make some money out of it, although the limited broadcast slots would mean they could charge a higher rate than usual in the final itself.

Ultimately whether it's the BBC or not it comes down to song selection. It's not even about Britain sending a big star over - we just need to send someone with a song which is a decent reflection of British music today and we'd do OK. Engleburt Humperdink is not a reflection of the UK music scene of the 21st century - or indeed the last quarter of the 20th century.
JO
Jon
You feel those limits might change if ITV came waving a big wad of cash?

I think the past has shown the British public aren't necessarily a better judge than the BBC.

Anyway I can't see another big star like Elton John or Robin Gibb ever wanting to do it after Englebert's failure.
JJ
jjne

Anyway I can't see another big star like [...] Robin Gibb ever wanting to do it after Englebert's failure.


Yeah that could be a problem for reasons I can't quite put my finger on Laughing
IT
itsrobert Founding member
You feel those limits might change if ITV came waving a big wad of cash?

I think the past has shown the British public aren't necessarily a better judge than the BBC.

Anyway I can't see another big star like Elton John or Robin Gibb ever wanting to do it after Englebert's failure.


You do realise he died last week? Confused
JO
Jon
You feel those limits might change if ITV came waving a big wad of cash?

I think the past has shown the British public aren't necessarily a better judge than the BBC.

Anyway I can't see another big star like Elton John or Robin Gibb ever wanting to do it after Englebert's failure.


You do realise he died last week? Confused

Oh dear. I guess that rules him out then.
GH
George Hill
Actually I think the best way for us to have a chance now is for someone other than the BBC to take charge of the selection process as I think they'd make a real effort of it (in the first year at least), so I guess the only way for that to happen would be for the BBC to drop out and inevitably one of the other PSBs pick it up as a result.

I'd rather have no adverts in the broadcast of the final than win.


Remember it is not as simple as ITV taking over from the BBC. Radio 2 also do a commentary and make a big deal of eurovision. The BBC rights go beyond the basic TV show and ITV alone could not do everything.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
You feel those limits might change if ITV came waving a big wad of cash?

I think the past has shown the British public aren't necessarily a better judge than the BBC.

Anyway I can't see another big star like Elton John or Robin Gibb ever wanting to do it after Englebert's failure.


You do realise he died last week? Confused

Oh dear. I guess that rules him out then.


I would imagine so Laughing

I didn't watch any of tonight's Eurovision, partly because I'm so sick of singing/dancing/talent shows all year round that Eurovision's not that appealing anymore. Anyway, if we always do so badly why not just pull out altogether? I'm sure I read somewhere that we're a major financial backer of the whole thing (surprise, surprise - another case of Europe having to come cap in hand to us for money) so I don't see why we should continue in this vein if we get no return on our investment. Europe don't want us... so let's leave them to it.
DV
DVB Cornwall
As I keep saying it's time for the BBC to re-vision it's attitide, if by taking it seriously it means ditiching Graham et al and losing 25-30pct of the viewers in the proicess I think it'd be a much better proposition.

There's only one act that even stands a hope in hell of getting a decent result for the UK at present. One Direction but they'd not touch with a bargepole.

It's a shame that The Voice isn't run earlier, it'd be a useful winner prize for that show.
JO
Jon

I didn't watch any of tonight's Eurovision, partly because I'm so sick of singing/dancing/talent shows all year round that Eurovision's not that appealing anymore. Anyway, if we always do so badly why not just pull out altogether? I'm sure I read somewhere that we're a major financial backer of the whole thing (surprise, surprise - another case of Europe having to come cap in hand to us for money) so I don't see why we should continue in this vein if we get no return on our investment. Europe don't want us... so let's leave them to it.

But it's incredibly cheap 3 nights of entertainment for the BBC and it rates well.
JO
Jon
As I keep saying it's time for the BBC to re-vision it's attitide, if by taking it seriously it means ditiching Graham et al and losing 25-30pct of the viewers in the proicess I think it'd be a much better proposition.

Who would you have host the event? After tonight I'd much prefer Ken Bruce or Paddy O'Connell.

I think linking The Voice to Eurovision would be incredibly damaging for the Voice.

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