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Eurovision 2012 - 22/24/26 May 2012

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CC
Cross Channel
Have to say the set hasn't done it for me this year, nowhere near as good as last year which was simple, clean and looked rather modern IMHO. This year it feels a little cluttered and over complicated.


Oddly - I thought the opposite. Last year's set was very bland for me - and incredibly flat - and the stage was such that the coverage was pretty dull and distancing. Prefer the more 'broken up' effect that this year's LED has, and the more versatile set areas, though the coverage hasn't blown me away... There have been some pretty amazing wire cam shots though.

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Also in terms of camera work and direction nothing that has come close to the creativity seen in Petr Elfimov's 2009 performance in Russia (specifically the Segway/steady-cam shot).


Yep - though it was a pity the song was so bad... I really liked the Moscow staging - but the cost of it must have been mind blowing.

For me Norway did an amazing job in 2010 with their set. The only one in recent years that hasn't relied on acres of LED screen filled with video. The versatility of the physical setting (the various things that could hang gave the jibs and steadicams a lot more to work with), and the use of layered lighting and lots of it really made the contest feel fresh. Germany felt much flatter to me the following year. (But then Norway had three stonking presenters as well - the best since Sweden in 2000 IMO)

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Also as much as I think Scott and Sara are good the BBC Three coverage has felt sloppy, at the end of one performance both presenters jump their cue at least twice.


Scott and Sara good? Really? Were we watching the same show? Actually we weren't - as I switched to SVT about half way through both contests... Edward and Gina were streets better.


Well you might have a point, I like Sara Cox but I may have exaggerated with the word good.

Yes the 2010 Oslo set was good, although I stick by my earlier comment about last year I think Nina's performance of Caroban really showed it at its best.
CA
Cando
I agree with Cross Chanel I think the Baku set is the worst in years. I think I have to go back as far as 2001 to find one I dislike more.
AG
AxG
The presenters are worse, the only charisma between them is when they said. 'da da da dam' and 'blah blah blah blah'. I'm not making that up. Confused But still not as annoying as the Moscow SF hosts. Mad

Anke, Stefan and Judith were great together especially the two former, but they are comedians.
The presenters from Norway; Haddy and Erik were equally as good, especially Nadia Hasnaoui.
GO
gottago
Cando posted:
I agree with Cross Chanel I think the Baku set is the worst in years. I think I have to go back as far as 2001 to find one I dislike more.


2008's was far worse than this year's. Rubbish lighting that year as well.
DV
DVB Cornwall
The presenters are capable, or have been in the semi finals, without too much forced chemistry. whether this will hold for tonight is of course in the lap of the gods.

Ictimai could have chosen worse, much worse. The presentation of the two draws was dire.
TT
Tumble Tower
I am very tempted to connect the Laptop up to the TV and watch SVT's version of the contest tonight, rather than Graham Norton too.

Why would you want to watch SVT's version. The background commentary will be in Swedish.
A valid voting number will appear for our song on SVT, but if you dial that number internationally, i.e. 00 followed by the code for Sweden followed by the number (perhaps dropping its initial 0), I have a horrible feeling SVT's system will detect that the number has been dialled from outside Sweden and disallow the vote.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Why, professional presentation, no irrelevant on screen graphics, no overshooting the postcards and babbling over the beginning of the song etc etc.
AG
AxG
Eurovision.tv could get their act together and maybe from next year produce an HD feed online.

Will the Red Button offer 'sing-a-long' and does this include any commentary?
BR
Brekkie
There is the sing-a-long option on the red button. Not sure if there is a no commentary option - I doubt it.

The BBC are ridiculously over zealous in their on screen warnings - both verbally and with graphics - for Eurovision. I'm no expert but on Thursday it felt like every other performance had Strobe lighting warnings, but only one really had them to an extent I'd imagine they might cause a problem. These on screen graphics are far too big too - they could easily be halved in height wihtout reducing the size of the text.
NG
noggin Founding member
I am very tempted to connect the Laptop up to the TV and watch SVT's version of the contest tonight, rather than Graham Norton too.

Why would you want to watch SVT's version.


Because it's a lot better than the UK Semi Final - though I quite like Graham so will record SVT and watch it later probably.

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The background commentary will be in Swedish.


Really? Hadn't realised that Rolling Eyes

Some of us speak languages other than English... I'm perfectly happy watching the Swedish and Norwegian coverage because I speak Swedish (and by extension can also understand quite a lot of Norwegian)

Edward and Gina were great commentators for the first two semifinals. Witty, informative, but they shut up during the singing, and didn't talk over the interval stuff much either.

But then Gina presented Melodifestivalen this year (and has a razor-sharp wit), and Edward has commentated for a number of years (and is a director/writer for MF I believe - though not the multi-camera director AFAIK)

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A valid voting number will appear for our song on SVT, but if you dial that number internationally, i.e. 00 followed by the code for Sweden followed by the number (perhaps dropping its initial 0), I have a horrible feeling SVT's system will detect that the number has been dialled from outside Sweden and disallow the vote.


Yes - it should block them - however it doesn't take much to find out the UK voting prefix does it?
DV
DVB Cornwall
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26-May-2012 @ 15:23
NG
noggin Founding member
There is the sing-a-long option on the red button. Not sure if there is a no commentary option - I doubt it.

The BBC are ridiculously over zealous in their on screen warnings - both verbally and with graphics - for Eurovision. I'm no expert but on Thursday it felt like every other performance had Strobe lighting warnings, but only one really had them to an extent I'd imagine they might cause a problem. These on screen graphics are far too big too - they could easily be halved in height wihtout reducing the size of the text.


Suspect it's because of the very strict Ofcom rules on PSE material. If you suspect that live material you have no control over could fail Harding, you probably have to be seen to warn audiences.

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