PC
Brilliant stuff there!
And Stewart Morris... Oh lord *remembers the open talkback from the 1977 contest*
Let's hope he's better at learning the lyrics than he was in 1979
(From Good King Memorex, the 1979 BBC VT Christmas Tape)
(From Good King Memorex, the 1979 BBC VT Christmas Tape)
Brilliant stuff there!
And Stewart Morris... Oh lord *remembers the open talkback from the 1977 contest*
GM
I might sound like a pessimist buuuuuuut...Why have I got a straaange feeling that the UK is going to get ridiculed for sending Englebert Humperdinck to Eurovision?
Can he in all honesty compete against the likes of, and I can't believe I'm saying this...Jedward?
Why can't some of the big UK Record Labels like, Ministry Of Sound, All Around The World or Sony send an artist from their roster that are known within Europe to give us a fighting chance?
Can he in all honesty compete against the likes of, and I can't believe I'm saying this...Jedward?
Why can't some of the big UK Record Labels like, Ministry Of Sound, All Around The World or Sony send an artist from their roster that are known within Europe to give us a fighting chance?
DV
Ask any reasonably well known current act and you would get a (possibly polite, but probably not) refusal.
DO
Until we (as a nation) change our attitude to Eurovision, no credible act will want to be associated with it.
And having seen someone reacting to today's news with (and he was being serious) "it doesn't matter who we enter, even if we entered an opera singing chimp, we'd still lose", I don't think we're likely to be taking it seriously for a long while.
And having seen someone reacting to today's news with (and he was being serious) "it doesn't matter who we enter, even if we entered an opera singing chimp, we'd still lose", I don't think we're likely to be taking it seriously for a long while.
JO
Well lets be honest it's not going to happen, is it?
Until we (as a nation) change our attitude to Eurovision, no credible act will want to be associated with it.
And having seen someone reacting to today's news with (and he was being serious) "it doesn't matter who we enter, even if we entered an opera singing chimp, we'd still lose", I don't think we're likely to be taking it seriously for a long while.
And having seen someone reacting to today's news with (and he was being serious) "it doesn't matter who we enter, even if we entered an opera singing chimp, we'd still lose", I don't think we're likely to be taking it seriously for a long while.
Well lets be honest it's not going to happen, is it?
FA
Because of all of the political voting, the only way that we could come close to winning is obviously with a brilliant song, but most probably more so if the songs were performed with no mention until after voting closes of which song is by which country. Though something like this would never happen.
BA
This is all well and good, but are you quite sure it wouldn't break our reality?
It would only break reality if Dennis Waterman were to be involved in any way.
Also, I've just realised that it's Harriott, not Harriot.
the BBC should have Rick Astley, Susan Boyle, an internet celebrity like Stuart Ashen, and Ainsley Harriot as a supergroup, against some nobody. Songs would be written by a comedian, and Louie Spence could choreograph.
This is all well and good, but are you quite sure it wouldn't break our reality?
It would only break reality if Dennis Waterman were to be involved in any way.
Also, I've just realised that it's Harriott, not Harriot.
DV
Frim the website .... still find it incredible that a building in this state will be holding the contest in less than three months.
Frim the website .... still find it incredible that a building in this state will be holding the contest in less than three months.
GO
Erm, believe it or not that's the only way any country can win. The political nonsense was put to sleep by Norway winning, Germany winning, us coming fifth in 2009 and fifth in the televoting last year as well as several other examples. People seem to think its political because there was a period during the mid to early 2000s when the west at large couldn't be bothered sending anything worthy to the contest whilst the east was taking it seriously. This combined with Wogan's mind-numbing refusal to except how dire our entries were and blame it all on politics (basing it all on Cyprus/Greece and the odd Balkan vote) lead to seemingly the entire nation suddenly believing we were doing poorly because of the actions of other countries rather than the songs we were sending which would never in a million years chart in the UK.
We will do continuously well if we send a good song every year. If Europe enjoys it, they will vote for it. Don't expect Europe to vote for a turd just because we're British.
It couldn't happen as people in many countries would be quite aware of who's come from where before the contest because of preview shows and looking on the internet. And there's no point in doing it anyway. Half the fun of the contest is seeing what each country has brought to the table. So why spoil the fun and make the voting one hell of a lot more difficult by removing the country's name?
Because of all of the political voting, the only way that we could come close to winning is obviously with a brilliant song,
We will do continuously well if we send a good song every year. If Europe enjoys it, they will vote for it. Don't expect Europe to vote for a turd just because we're British.
but most probably more so if the songs were performed with no mention until after voting closes of which song is by which country. Though something like this would never happen.
It couldn't happen as people in many countries would be quite aware of who's come from where before the contest because of preview shows and looking on the internet. And there's no point in doing it anyway. Half the fun of the contest is seeing what each country has brought to the table. So why spoil the fun and make the voting one hell of a lot more difficult by removing the country's name?
NG
Political voting doesn't win or lose you the contest these days. Bloc voting can appear annoying but in reality it isn't political - it's social. I watch a lot of Scandinavian TV - and the Norwegian entry has already featured as a main guest on a show broadcast in both Sweden and Norway. The Scandinavian countries share a lot of similar cultural references (there's a huge crossover between the countries - with Norwegian and Swedish performers being well known in both countries) - as do former Soviet countries. This isn't politics - it's just 'life'.
If an artist is popular in Sweden, chances are the Norwegians (and Danes) will be familiar with them - and probably like them.
You see Swedish, Danish and Norwegian performers regularly appearing on shows in their neighbouring countries - just like the UK and Ireland.
Getting back to Eurovision - the reality is that the only way of winning is to get votes from pretty much EVERY country (not 12s from everyone - but consistently getting points rather than not). That means a good song performed well. Simple.
noggin
Founding member
Because of all of the political voting, the only way that we could come close to winning is obviously with a brilliant song, but most probably more so if the songs were performed with no mention until after voting closes of which song is by which country. Though something like this would never happen.
Political voting doesn't win or lose you the contest these days. Bloc voting can appear annoying but in reality it isn't political - it's social. I watch a lot of Scandinavian TV - and the Norwegian entry has already featured as a main guest on a show broadcast in both Sweden and Norway. The Scandinavian countries share a lot of similar cultural references (there's a huge crossover between the countries - with Norwegian and Swedish performers being well known in both countries) - as do former Soviet countries. This isn't politics - it's just 'life'.
If an artist is popular in Sweden, chances are the Norwegians (and Danes) will be familiar with them - and probably like them.
You see Swedish, Danish and Norwegian performers regularly appearing on shows in their neighbouring countries - just like the UK and Ireland.
Getting back to Eurovision - the reality is that the only way of winning is to get votes from pretty much EVERY country (not 12s from everyone - but consistently getting points rather than not). That means a good song performed well. Simple.
Last edited by noggin on 3 March 2012 2:48pm