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Eurovision 2011 - 10/12/14 May 2011

Dusseldorf (May 2010)

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noggin Founding member
Neo posted:
noggin posted:
dosxuk posted:
So just me who didn't like the set then?


Nope - I was entirely underwhelmed. NRK's in-house creation in Oslo was much more flexible and interesting - and didn't depend on acres of LED to be impressive. It also gave the jibs, cranes and steadicams more stuff to work with.

I don't think the set was as good as previous years either. Other years had more stuff on stage too.


At least a couple of acts used the thrust/run-out to the second smaller stage tonight. Still not a particularly interesting set though. Nicely finished - very nice integrated LED stuff - but not enough layers or textures.

Arguably the most interesting songs visually tonight were the ones with almost no LED - just nice lighting. (Like most last year...)
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thisisfoxx
David posted:
They blanked it for one showing but the black graphic stayed on for too long and just as someone noticed and faded it out, the scoreboard appeared again complete with exposed Vodafone logo. The Vodafone logo didn't fade on when it was shown, it just appeared at the same time as the results board.

Most of the time the black graphic appeared and disappeared at exactly the right frame so it must have been smarter than someone pressing a button.


Hello all. Hope I can shed some light on this situation. In the rehearsals, the Vodafone logo only appeared over the boards, always a few seconds in - so when the boards appeared, we could throw up the black patch to hide it before the logo appeared. There you have it. Nothing smarter than someone pressing a button!

For some reason tonight, the Vodafone logo stayed on screen even when the scoreboard wasn't up, so we ended up with the ugly black patch covering the sponsorship. Then, when the scoreboard reappeared, the Vodafone logo was incorrectly in-situ.

On a similar note, the straps with the phone numbers on them were in a slightly different place on Tuesday's transmission compared with the rehearsal where I'd lined everything up pixel perfect, so the phone numbers were out of place ever so slightly. Sometimes, I don't know why I make the effort!
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gottago
They were really rushing through the envelopes tonight to finish on time!

Absolutely loving the stage this year, it really is phenomenal.

Gutted for Israel, what a performance!
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thisisfoxx
noggin posted:
dvboy posted:
The explanation for the distortion on Sara Cox's microphone has been given as "satellite compression", whatever that means.


Rubbish. Sounded like a dodgy SDI de-embedder or audio synchroniser - though it seemed to happen a short period after she was faded up (so maybe something to do with clocking and the sound desk?)


"Satellite compression" was the official story from Duesseldorf, although I'm not quite sure I agree. It wasn't anything we had control over in London unfortunately.
IS
Inspector Sands
Neo posted:
David posted:

Anyway, that is it for a another year. We've had overruns, sound problems, graphics problems and someone even got locked in a train toilet for a while. What will 2012 bring? I can't wait!

There is still the final though.

Yeah, David said the same thing on Tuesday night too Confused
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topdog2006
thisisfoxx posted:
David posted:
They blanked it for one showing but the black graphic stayed on for too long and just as someone noticed and faded it out, the scoreboard appeared again complete with exposed Vodafone logo. The Vodafone logo didn't fade on when it was shown, it just appeared at the same time as the results board.

Most of the time the black graphic appeared and disappeared at exactly the right frame so it must have been smarter than someone pressing a button.


Hello all. Hope I can shed some light on this situation. In the rehearsals, the Vodafone logo only appeared over the boards, always a few seconds in - so when the boards appeared, we could throw up the black patch to hide it before the logo appeared. There you have it. Nothing smarter than someone pressing a button!

For some reason tonight, the Vodafone logo stayed on screen even when the scoreboard wasn't up, so we ended up with the ugly black patch covering the sponsorship. Then, when the scoreboard reappeared, the Vodafone logo was incorrectly in-situ.

On a similar note, the straps with the phone numbers on them were in a slightly different place on Tuesday's transmission compared with the rehearsal where I'd lined everything up pixel perfect, so the phone numbers were out of place ever so slightly. Sometimes, I don't know why I make the effort!


I was watching the clean feed and as far as I could tell the sponsorship logo did exactly what it was supposed to, and didn't appear over anything but the scoreboard? Confused
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Ebeneezer Scrooge
noggin posted:
dvboy posted:
The explanation for the distortion on Sara Cox's microphone has been given as "satellite compression", whatever that means.


Rubbish. Sounded like a dodgy SDI de-embedder or audio synchroniser - though it seemed to happen a short period after she was faded up (so maybe something to do with clocking and the sound desk?).

Satellite Compression doesn't do that on its own...

(There was a very similar audio problem caused by de-embedders on a BBC Christmas Midnight Communion a while back . Made the singing and organ sound - err - interesting...)


I didn't hear it, but was the distortion an audio warble like we found on Tandberg Encoder/Decoder pairs - in our experience it was most noticeable on music, but at it's worst could sound like drowning or a mild dalek effect.
MA
Markymark
noggin posted:

Yep - Norway and Sweden know what they're doing. And also very nice people to work with.


Indeed they are !

noggin posted:

When NRK hosted last year they had two identical HD trucks (their only HD trucks I believe) working together, but both able to work alone if they had to? (I think there was a performance director and a presentation director?)


At the time they only had one HD truck (from 2006), but they hired in additional HD resources from elsewhere. You're right though, a back up set of equipment was set up with the same basic config as the primary HD truck. Last autumn that kit was installed into a second OB truck chassis, so since January NRK have two HD OB trucks. The idea was that HD 2 would be a copy of HD 1, but of course in five years things change, so HD 2 has many enhancements.

HD 1 details
http://www.sony.co.uk/res/attachment/file/54/1223049871154.pdf
Last edited by Markymark on 13 May 2011 9:19am
BH
BillyH Founding member
A quick look at Barb's figures shows the final UK ratings for every Eurovision since 1999:

1999: 8.91 million
2000: 6.54 million
2001: 6.98 million
2002: 7.81 million
2003: 7.94 million
2004: 8.38 million
2005: 7.97 million
2006: 8.33 million
2007: 8.77 million
2008: 7.15 million
2009: 7.91 million
2010: 5.59 million

So 2002 to 2009 saw it hover nicely around the 8 million mark before a surprising drop last year. There seems to be a bit more interest this time with Blue and Jedward though, so ratings may be up again tomorrow. Anyone know any pre-1999 figures?
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A former member
That's not really true firgues since many people have euro parties, many watch online. Pre 99, it was 12-14 million.
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Thomas
Does anyone actually think Blue have a chance at this?
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Chie
623058 posted:
That's not really true firgues since many people have euro parties, many watch online. Pre 99, it was 12-14 million.


I'm sure I once read that BARB participants input the number of guests watching with them if they have guests round.

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