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EUROVISION 2009 - MOSCOW, RUSSIA

FINAL: Saturday 16 May 2009, 8pm, BBC1 (B1) (October 2008)

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PH
Phen
Excellent result! If they can replicate the backing "choir" then Malena will be a serious contender in Moscow. The song hooks you instantly and thats why it should pull in a lot of the televotes, whether the juries will be as taken with it is another matter, hopefully they'll be more impressed than the Swedish juries this evening! What a contrast!
NG
noggin Founding member
What a turn up! The public totally overturn the jury votes! I thought Mans had it sewn up after the juries, but oh no...

I'd have been happy with Alcazar, EMD, Mans or Malena - so am quite pleased. Feel sorry for Mans though - but at least he has an album out soon. (*)

(*) Many artists depend on Melodifestivalen to get themselves an album deal AIUI.
JA
jamesmd
I can't tell you how happy I am that Malena's won. Unfortunately. Cross Country Trains haven't quite yet got round to offering Wifi, so I couldn't watch the final, but I've seen the points and this year seems to have been the first year when the system has really worked PERFECTLY - where the public have really got to have a say in the voting and they've managed to overturn the result.

Sad for Molly and Agnes, but happy for Alcazar and Mans (and I feel a bit perplexed at af Ugglas too).
BO
squawkBOX
Interesting result for this year's Melodifestivalen final!

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2039/mf001.jpg

What I find notable is the short spread between the results of Baby Goodbye, Hope & Glory and Stay the Night - all of which I personally thought would get in the top three.

Snälla snälla would have been an interesting song to send to ESC, as it is VERY different.

As others have said, we have seen pop/opera combos before - I wonder how it will get on.

I liked the old Eurovision intro used at the start. I wonder why SVT are still using it and not the newer one?

Roll on ESC 2009 in Moscow!
JA
jamesmd
Did anyone else think the graphics were a bit naff this year (particularly the points graphics, just seemed a bit messy).

In other news, Molly was taken to hospital this morning after a tray of glass was dropped on her by a waitress at the aftershow party.
AG
AxG
So, Semi Final 1 Running Order:

1 - Montenegro
2 - Czech Republic
3 - Belgium
4 - Belarus
5 - Sweden
6 - Armenia
7 - Andorra
8 - Switzerland
9 - Turkey
10- Israel
11- Bulgaria
12- Iceland
13- FYR Macedonia
14- Romania
15- Finland
16- Portugal
17- Malta
18- Bosnia

So, Semi Final 2 Running Order:

1 - Croatia
2 - Ireland
3 - Latvia
4 - Serbia
5 - Poland
6 - Norway
7 - Cyprus
8 - Slovakia
9 - Denmark
10- Slovenia
11- Hungary
12- Azerbaijan
13- Greece
14- Lithuania
15- Moldova
16- Albania
17- Ukraine
18- Estonia
19- Netherlands

Final:
1 -
2 -
3 - France
4 -
5 -
6 -
7 -
8 -
9 -
10- Russia
11-
12-
13-
14-
15-
16-
17- Germany
18-
19-
20-
21-
22-
23- UNITED KINGDOM
24-
25- Spain
DV
DVB Cornwall
Voting Order

SPAIN
BELGIUM
BELARUS
MALTA
GERMANY
CZECH REP
SWEDEN
ICELAND
FRANCE
ISRAEL
RUSSIA
LATVIA
MONTENEGRO
ANDORRA
FINLAND
SWITZERLAND
NORWAY
BULGARIA
LITHUANIA
UNITED KINGDOM
FYR MACEDONIA
SLOVAKIA
GREECE
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
UKRAINE
TURKEY
ALBANIA
SERBIA
CYPRUS
POLAND
NETHERLANDS
ESTONIA
CROATIA
PORTUGAL
ROMANIA
IRELAND
DENMARK
MOLDOVA
SLOVENIA
ARMENIA
HUNGARY
AZERBAIJAN
JA
jamesmd
A little present for you Malena lovers out there.

Sorry for the occasional drop out in audio.

http://up.metropol247.co.uk/James_H/Malena_Ernman_-_La_Voix_(piano).mp3
TT
Tumble Tower
AxG posted:
Final:
1 -
2 -
3 - France
4 -
5 -
6 -
7 -
8 -
9 -
10- Russia
11-
12-
13-
14-
15-
16-
17- Germany
18-
19-
20-
21-
22-
23- UNITED KINGDOM
24-
25- Spain


So the UK will perform third from last. Well back in 1997, we won as the penultimate act. Last year Russia won as the penultimate act. Third from last could be lucky too, don't you think? Depends what songs are either side of the ballad "My Time".

DVB Cornwall posted:
Voting Order

SPAIN
BELGIUM
BELARUS
MALTA
GERMANY
CZECH REP
SWEDEN
ICELAND
FRANCE
ISRAEL
RUSSIA
LATVIA
MONTENEGRO
ANDORRA
FINLAND
SWITZERLAND
NORWAY
BULGARIA
LITHUANIA
UNITED KINGDOM
FYR MACEDONIA
SLOVAKIA
GREECE
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
UKRAINE
TURKEY
ALBANIA
SERBIA
CYPRUS
POLAND
NETHERLANDS
ESTONIA
CROATIA
PORTUGAL
ROMANIA
IRELAND
DENMARK
MOLDOVA
SLOVENIA
ARMENIA
HUNGARY
AZERBAIJAN


I take it you mean the voting order for the grand final? They've certainly decided the order early enough.
DV
DVB Cornwall
The voting order has technical relevance to the Semis too,

Digame have to programme their equipment to provide the scoring of each semi final so that it gets passed to Moscow on time and in order so that the results are available more or less instantly after the voting ends.

The relevant countries are extracted for each semi and the equipment programmed accordingly. Physical equipment and software channel allocation has to be decided by this draw and not randomly on the relevant nights for security and integrity.
NG
noggin Founding member
DVB Cornwall posted:
The voting order has technical relevance to the Semis too,

Digame have to programme their equipment to provide the scoring of each semi final so that it gets passed to Moscow on time and in order so that the results are available more or less instantly after the voting ends.

The relevant countries are extracted for each semi and the equipment programmed accordingly. Physical equipment and software channel allocation has to be decided by this draw and not randomly on the relevant nights for security and integrity.


Yep.

One thing that interests me is how the phone voting is audited - both for Eurovision and Melodifestivalen. In light of the discoveries of how inaccurate SMS voting is (which is why it has totally disappeared in the UK - some SMS votes could take 10s of minutes to reach the counting system AIUI) and how long it takes to properly collate phone votes (at least 10 minutes from vote lines closing in the UK I believe), I'd be interested to know how this relates to other countries.

Melodifestivalen in particular seemed to provide near instant phone and SMS vote results during the final and andra chansen competitions. This would be impossible to do accurately and fairly in the UK.

Either the volume of votes is so much lower in Sweden, and they have a more high-tech system, or they have yet to have a scandal hit that exposes the "limitations" of phone voting...

Also - be interesting to know how the Digame system works across Europe - and how accurate it really is.

I'm not making any accusations against either the EBU or SVT - I'm just interested to know how the land lies outside the UK.

(And I know that the EBU has backup juries which can replace the televotes if there is a problem, or too few televotes are cast to be deemed significant)
GO
gottago
noggin posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
The voting order has technical relevance to the Semis too,

Digame have to programme their equipment to provide the scoring of each semi final so that it gets passed to Moscow on time and in order so that the results are available more or less instantly after the voting ends.

The relevant countries are extracted for each semi and the equipment programmed accordingly. Physical equipment and software channel allocation has to be decided by this draw and not randomly on the relevant nights for security and integrity.


Yep.

One thing that interests me is how the phone voting is audited - both for Eurovision and Melodifestivalen. In light of the discoveries of how inaccurate SMS voting is (which is why it has totally disappeared in the UK - some SMS votes could take 10s of minutes to reach the counting system AIUI) and how long it takes to properly collate phone votes (at least 10 minutes from vote lines closing in the UK I believe)
Ah, so this must be why they always used to close the text and interactive lines a good while before the phone lines on shows like The X Factor, Big Brother etc.

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