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JA
Jammers Founding member
cwathen posted:
WTF have they done? The original theme might be unsuitable, but it's saved a tiny bit by the fact that it's a nice song. This reworking sounds very cheesy and improvised, more like an earlier version of the original theme, rather than a successor of it. And is it an issue with the recording, or does the pitch really drop like that at 52 seconds? It's so obviously just been slowed down slightly rather than written like that, and sounds awful.


It is poor qualitiy of the clip which causes this.
CW
cwathen Founding member
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To be honest, I think they could do with a good long gap on the films - and leave it until after Enterprise has completed its run

Perhaps they could (Majel Barratt has actually suggested that Star Trek should have ceased all production after Voyager for 10 years - her thinking being that giving Star Trek a break during the 70's was the best thing ever to happen to it, so it could enjoy a 2nd rebirth) but commercially I don't see Paramount wanting to keep Star Trek away from the cinema for that long.

With it looking likely that George Lucas will get to make his final 3 Star Wars films, and even a Battlestar Galactica film apparantly around the corner (a series which could have turned out to be major compeition to Star Trek if it's popularity was recognised at the time of it's run and it wasn't inadvertantly cut short) film Paramount might feel that they should have a strong sci-fi offering of their own there to compete with the offerings from Fox and Universal - and like it or not Star Trek is their flagship sci fi franchise.

An avenue I'm surprised they haven't gone down is rereleasing some of the older films. It worked wonders for Star Wars when the original 3 were remastered and rereleased in the mid-90's (it's highly debatable whether they would ever have made more than 3 if this hadn't happened). Perhaps now it's time to give the Star Trek II/III/IV trilogy a dusting off and rereleasing them? Star Trek II smashed box office ratings at the time, and remains an excellent and compelling film which hasn't really dated at all (I think it set a record as being the first film to include a sequence made solely with CGI - and even by todays standards that sequence showing the Genesis Effect holds up fairly well). I really think cashing in on the success of their older films is something which could make them money and should be tried.
OB
on the box
I dont think we will see a DS9 movie, or a Voyager movie.
Who wrote the score for Star Trek VI? that must be the best Star Trek theme ever!
OB
on the box
Gavin Scott posted:
Lord knows I've tried to enjoy this show, but it just doesn't work for me.

All the stories have been done before - but better.

What ever happened to the Deanna Riker and hubby's show about an exploration ship?
Indeed as a vague fan, I loved TNG, later episodes of DS9 and Voyager. Enterprise hasnt met my expectations, sure its 'New' but stories are being reproduced in some way. "The Expanse" has elements of Star Trek IV and "Singularty" has elements of TOS episode "The Naked Now" correct me on that!!
Anyway I think a backward step in time for the show throws up problems, The Borg in Enterprise? There first apperance was in TNG episode "Q Who" so it makes this episode look obsolete. And the new ship dosent look antiquated enough in my opinion. But maybee they were trying to shake off there image of Star Trek, an image that had barley changed since the 60's in that case they are doing well, and they appear to be getting back to Roddenburys ideals when he started the franchise, it may annoy fans but I doubt Gene is turning in his grave, I only hope Berman and Bragga dont take things too far. More original stories is what we need, less of re-heated ideas of the previous franchise. It has to be remberd that ALL the other shows only really got going from season 3/4 onwards so there still time for Enterprise to really impress
CW
cwathen Founding member
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Who wrote the score for Star Trek VI? that must be the best Star Trek theme ever!

The Star Trek VI score was written by Cliff Eidelman. I don't think he had anything to do with Star Trek before, I don't think he has had since, but I agree it was a brilliant score (although I still think James Horner's work on ST2&3 represents the best score in the movie series, with Jerry Goldsmith being the best overall Star Trek composer). The only thing I didn't think worked was the title sequence. Not directly the fault of Eidelman I admit, but it just dragged on for too long (seemingly wanting to credit every cameo in the whole film) with a track that took too long to get going.

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has elements of TOS episode "The Naked Now" correct me on that!!

I think you mean the TOS episode 'The Naked Time'. 'The Naked Now' was a TNG episode (the first regular episode after the pilot actually).

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And the new ship dosent look antiquated enough in my opinion.

I think the problem with TOS is that they were trying to think ahead from 60's technology but still using 60's design. They underestimated of course how fast technology would advance - some of the technology we have today is more advanced than that depicted in the original Star Trek, and of course floodlit corridors and gloss red doors would date too.

However, In the two attempts that modern Star Trek has visited TOS, firstly in the season 6 TNG episode 'Relics', depicting a holodeck recreation of the 'original' (there's another thing that 'Enterprise' has changed) Enterprise bridge, and then more fully in the season 5 DS9 episode 'Trials and Tribulations', depicting them more fully interacted with the TOS setting, they have gone to great lengths not to change anything from that era.

Obviously, any series permanently set in the past must need to look good on screen permanently, rather than just being a quirky one off look at the past, and so Enterprise looks the way it does, but yes it is undeniable that Enterprise doesn't really look much more old fashioned than the 24th century Star Trek series did (ok so they have real sliders on the transporters instead of those touch activated things - big deal it's still all gunmetal grey), and it certainly looks more modern than TOS did. But that said, truly making the ship look more antiquated than TOS and still making it high quality modern sci-fi would be difficult
JP
Joe Public
HBK posted:
on the box posted:
Bring back the Borg!!
Shocked Are you mad??
Did you see the episode of ENTERPRISE that had the borg in it?
Archer defeated them in one episode, Picard couldn't defeat them properly.
Making Archer & co look more tech-advanced and smarter than their next gen counterparts who exist centurys after them. Confused

What were they thinking. Rolling Eyes


The Borg were in season two but they were never refered to as "The Borg" they were called "cybernetic creatures".

How can you watch season three in the UK?

I have tried to download them but never seem to be able to get them to play?
CW
cwathen Founding member
they are probably in Divx format, make sure you have the codex installed. That said, the episode I downloaded was in straightforward bog standard MPEG compression - the thing takes up about 460MB! Needless to say, it will be Divx'd asap.
JP
Joe Public
cwathen posted:
they are probably in Divx format, make sure you have the codex installed. That said, the episode I downloaded was in straightforward bog standard MPEG compression - the thing takes up about 460MB! Needless to say, it will be Divx'd asap.


Where did you download it from?

17 days later

JP
Joe Public
Season Three is on Sky One on Mon 5th Jan at 9pm with the season two closer on at 8pm.

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